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Old 06-19-2008   #14548 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by StewartG View Post
I disagree with your post because you are addressing TWO separate issues.

The part that I've bolded above - I think its an illogical argument, and here's why.

The point is not whether or not we should have a strong and robust military, rather, the point is what we are going to do about Iraq and how long we want to stay. I don't think ANYONE on the right or the left doubts the need for a strong military force, well equipped, and with high morale. But your argument mixes apples and oranges. It does not make sense to counter those who want the US out of Iraq with the sort of argument that you make about just going ahead and weakening the military.

I don't see any evidence that Obama wants a weak military. On the contrary, I think most experts agree that after we have withdrawn from Iraq and are rested and re-equipped, we will have a FAR, FAR stronger military force than we do now during this massive occupation.

In fact... One could make the argument that it is the REPUBLICANS who are trying to weaken our military and send a message of weakness to the world.

By insisting on keeping a massive presence in Iraq, we are essentially telling the rest of the world - we are WILLING to spread ourselves too thin, militarily, and we are willing to keep it that way for a long, long time! What kind of message does THAT send to our enemies who are looking for a moment of weakness to contemplate attacking us? What kind of message does THAT send to our allies who may be looking to us for protection?
You have every right to disagree. But I think its a completely logical argument given the ad that you posted. The woman in the ad is holding her cute cuddly baby telling McCain he can't have him when he's old enough. From that, one can easily form the opinion that she does not want her son to get hurt. Any rational parent would want the same thing. Its also very easy to make the small leap that she does not want her son to join the military and possibly get hurt. now if everyone follwoed her lead where would we be? If she would have used some solid points in her argument it would have held more validity...but playing off the idea that her little boy will get hurt is just pandering to the emotions instead of giving a reasoned argument.

I don't recall saying anywhere that Obama wanted a weak military. I simply said that ad was emotionally charged and tried to explain what I think McCain meant by saying we might be there 100 years.
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