Menu Translation Questions

aligarcia · 03-23-2005

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Originally Posted by james

We went to Oasis yesterday, mentioned above by JAH. It's across from the Superior Beer distributor on the highway. It's basically Nouveau La Floresta. They have a few more things on the menu and I would have to score them a bit higher on the style scale. The habanero salsa (in the clear squeeze dispensers they keep in the fridge) kicked my ass hard. I had to go salsa-free on my last taco to cool down.

The cheladas de Victoria helped a bit.

Que son "cheladas de Victoria"?????? y quien es Victoria?

**denisea** · 03-23-2005

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Originally Posted by aligarcia

Que son "cheladas de Victoria"?????? y quien es Victoria?

A chelada is cerveza that has been poured into a glass with salted rim containing lime juice and ice. Very refreshing on a hot day. A "chelada de Victoria" is a chelada made with Victoria cerveza.

playabum17 · 03-23-2005

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Originally Posted by denisea

A chelada is cerveza that has been poured into a glass with salted rim containing lime juice and ice. Very refreshing on a hot day. A "chelada de Victoria" is a chelada made with Victoria cerveza.

A chelada is one awesome drink, definitely refreshing. I miss them so much. I suppose I could make them here, but it is never the same.

03-23-2005

All you food experts...help with menu words please:

Arabe = marinated beef? slices?
Bisteak = beef steak? maybe a hunk?
Costilla = ribs beef maybe?
Arrachera = the meat like gyros on the round rotating spit with the pineapple on top?
Cebollitas = ?
Chuleta = ?
Nortena = ?
What the heck is oriental chico? I thought Pollo was chicken and chico is little?
Alambre = ?
And torta is a sandwich sort of thing as opposed to a taco?
Gracias, my stomach is growling!

**denisea** · 03-23-2005

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Originally Posted by Ennui

All you food experts...help with menu words please:

Arabe = marinated beef? slices?
Bisteak = beef steak? maybe a hunk?
Costilla = ribs beef maybe?
Arrachera = the meat like gyros on the round rotating spit with the pineapple on top?
Cebollitas = ?
Chuleta = ?
Nortena = ?
What the heck is oriental chico? I thought Pollo was chicken and chico is little?
Alambre = ?
And torta is a sandwich sort of thing as opposed to a taco?
Gracias, my stomach is growling!

Tacos Arabe: a variation of tacos al pastor that originated in Puebla that's served in a thick flour tortilla called pan arabe
Bistec/Bistek: beefsteak
Costillas: ribs
Arracheras: skirt steak or fajitas
Cebollitas: green onions or scallions
Chuleta: chop (as in chuleta de puerco or pork chop)
Nortena: Northern Mexico
Chicos: parched corn cooked with pork
Alambre: shishkabob
Torta: sandwich

MWC · 03-23-2005

Oh, Miss Moderator & Forum Goddess --
Could you move ennui's and your posts to a new thread? I bet it would get a lot of action.
Thanks!

**Jesus** · 03-23-2005

Actually Tacos Arabes is the original name this kind of food should be remembered as. But "al pastor" is the common name in central Mexico. For example in Monterrey they are known as "Tacos de Trompo".
The way to cook the meat in a vertical roticery is not Mexican in it's origins,you can see the same idea in Greece. The thing that made the "al pastor" different, in my opinion is the pineapple on top of the roticery, and specially the sauce to marinate the meat, in the mayoritiy of cases it contains Achiote for flavour and colour.
The "tacos arabes" in Puebla and Mexico city (there are a couple of the same "chain") do not have Achiote nor pineapple.

Buen provecho.

**Jesus** · 03-23-2005

Also just for clarification: Tortas are not equal to sandwich in Mexico.
If you ask for sandwich you get two square slices of white box bread and something inside: mayonaise, mustard, onion, lettuce, tomatoe. Normally the options are: ham, cheese, tuna, ham and egg.

But if you ask for torta, you get a different kind of bread, the little son of a bagguette called bolillo or the fatso cousin called telera. Both of them are the size of a hamburger bun, but with a crusty shell (just like the bagguette wich in Yucatan is called Frances).
Inside, you normally will get a spread of re-fried beans on both inner halves of the bread, sometimes beans on one and mayonaise on the other. Tortas has more variates than sandwiches: pierna, jamon, huevo, chorizo, pollo, milanesa, pollo con mole, al pastor, romeritos, tuna, grilled fish, etc. joined by some lettuce, tomatoe, onion and in some places avocado or sauce or chiles en rajas.

So, torta is quite different from a sandwich. And in comparison with a Hamburger, the difference will be the bun, no ketchup, no picles and instead of just beef or chicken or fish, a lot more options and flavours.

**denisea** · 03-23-2005

Thanks Jesus. Those are great descriptions.

**denisea** · 03-23-2005

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Originally Posted by MWC

Oh, Miss Moderator & Forum Goddess --
Could you move ennui's and your posts to a new thread? I bet it would get a lot of action.
Thanks!

Great idea MWC.

MWC · 03-23-2005

I blush.

**denisea** · 03-23-2005

Learn and/or test your Spanish food vocabulary with the following:

General Foods Quiz --- click here.
Processed Foods Quiz --- click here.

Meat Quiz --- click here, here and here.
Fish & Seafood Quiz --- click here and here.

Dairy Products Quiz --- click here.

Vegetables Quiz --- click here, here and here.
Fruit & Nuts Quiz --- click here, here, here and here.

Cereals Quiz --- click here.

Condiments & Spices Quiz --- click here.
Oils Quiz --- click here.

Candys & Dessert Quiz --- click here.

Drinks Quiz --- click here.

Meals Quiz --- click here.

Dining Room Quiz --- click here.
Kitchen Quiz --- click here.

MWC · 03-24-2005

Thank goodness we're snowed in today! These quizzes are great; I actually know quite a bit of Spanish ....
.... when the right answer is somewhere there in front of me, anyway!
Great find!

**denisea** · 03-24-2005

Thought you might enjoy those MWC. When there's a visual cue, I have little problem remembering the years of Spanish I took in HS and College... take that visual cue away and I'm often at a loss for words (I know, hard to imagine). Darn those gray hairs!

03-24-2005

Ohh..can't wait to try the quizzes. Hubbie always relies on me to tell him what everything is on the menu...and what he will like...though he knows the cervesa part just fine.

Thanks guys. Would love to hear any other menu tips you have!

03-23-2005	#4 (permalink)
Ennui Guest Posts: n/a	Menu Translation Questions All you food experts...help with menu words please: Arabe = marinated beef? slices? Bisteak = beef steak? maybe a hunk? Costilla = ribs beef maybe? Arrachera = the meat like gyros on the round rotating spit with the pineapple on top? Cebollitas = ? Chuleta = ? Nortena = ? What the heck is oriental chico? I thought Pollo was chicken and chico is little? Alambre = ? And torta is a sandwich sort of thing as opposed to a taco? Gracias, my stomach is growling!

03-23-2005	#8 (permalink)
Jesus Nutty Peep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mexico City, Mexico Posts: 5,458	Also just for clarification: Tortas are not equal to sandwich in Mexico. If you ask for sandwich you get two square slices of white box bread and something inside: mayonaise, mustard, onion, lettuce, tomatoe. Normally the options are: ham, cheese, tuna, ham and egg. But if you ask for torta, you get a different kind of bread, the little son of a bagguette called bolillo or the fatso cousin called telera. Both of them are the size of a hamburger bun, but with a crusty shell (just like the bagguette wich in Yucatan is called Frances). Inside, you normally will get a spread of re-fried beans on both inner halves of the bread, sometimes beans on one and mayonaise on the other. Tortas has more variates than sandwiches: pierna, jamon, huevo, chorizo, pollo, milanesa, pollo con mole, al pastor, romeritos, tuna, grilled fish, etc. joined by some lettuce, tomatoe, onion and in some places avocado or sauce or chiles en rajas. So, torta is quite different from a sandwich. And in comparison with a Hamburger, the difference will be the bun, no ketchup, no picles and instead of just beef or chicken or fish, a lot more options and flavours. Last edited by Jesus; 03-23-2005 at 06:01 PM..

03-23-2005	#12 (permalink)
denisea Forum Goddess Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: On the road to ruins... Posts: 7,026	Learn and/or test your Spanish food vocabulary with the following: General Foods Quiz --- click here. Processed Foods Quiz --- click here. Meat Quiz --- click here, here and here. Fish & Seafood Quiz --- click here and here. Dairy Products Quiz --- click here. Vegetables Quiz --- click here, here and here. Fruit & Nuts Quiz --- click here, here, here and here. Cereals Quiz --- click here. Condiments & Spices Quiz --- click here. Oils Quiz --- click here. Candys & Dessert Quiz --- click here. Drinks Quiz --- click here. Meals Quiz --- click here. Dining Room Quiz --- click here. Kitchen Quiz --- click here.

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03-23-2005	#6 (permalink)
MWC añejo Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Connecticut Posts: 6,496	Oh, Miss Moderator & Forum Goddess -- Could you move ennui's and your posts to a new thread? I bet it would get a lot of action. Thanks!

03-23-2005	#7 (permalink)
Jesus Nutty Peep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mexico City, Mexico Posts: 5,458	Actually Tacos Arabes is the original name this kind of food should be remembered as. But "al pastor" is the common name in central Mexico. For example in Monterrey they are known as "Tacos de Trompo". The way to cook the meat in a vertical roticery is not Mexican in it's origins,you can see the same idea in Greece. The thing that made the "al pastor" different, in my opinion is the pineapple on top of the roticery, and specially the sauce to marinate the meat, in the mayoritiy of cases it contains Achiote for flavour and colour. The "tacos arabes" in Puebla and Mexico city (there are a couple of the same "chain") do not have Achiote nor pineapple. Buen provecho.

03-23-2005	#9 (permalink)
denisea Forum Goddess Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: On the road to ruins... Posts: 7,026	Thanks Jesus. Those are great descriptions.

03-23-2005	#11 (permalink)
MWC añejo Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Connecticut Posts: 6,496	I blush.

03-24-2005	#13 (permalink)
MWC añejo Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Connecticut Posts: 6,496	Thank goodness we're snowed in today! These quizzes are great; I actually know quite a bit of Spanish .... .... when the right answer is somewhere there in front of me, anyway! Great find!

03-24-2005	#14 (permalink)
denisea Forum Goddess Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: On the road to ruins... Posts: 7,026	Thought you might enjoy those MWC. When there's a visual cue, I have little problem remembering the years of Spanish I took in HS and College... take that visual cue away and I'm often at a loss for words (I know, hard to imagine). Darn those gray hairs!

03-24-2005	#15 (permalink)
Ennui Guest Posts: n/a	Ohh..can't wait to try the quizzes. Hubbie always relies on me to tell him what everything is on the menu...and what he will like...though he knows the cervesa part just fine. Thanks guys. Would love to hear any other menu tips you have!