murder march 19, 2005 playacar - Page 3

fins · 03-29-2005

I think it is terribly sad, but my first thought was "why would any woman go walking alone on the beach at night?" Then my second thought is "why would her husband let her go walking alone on the beach at night?" Maybe they had a fight & she stomped off & then this unfortunate thing happened...very sad indeed.

**Shammy** · 03-29-2005

I told hubby about this tonight, as many details as we have (which isn't many) and ya know what HE first said?

"Did anyone interview the husband...does HE have an alibi"?

Now this came out of HIS mouth, I'm just telling you how my husband's mind works (and yes, it does scare me when he thinks like this

).

But I never thought of that. And I suppose it could happen...if someone wanted to do away with their spouse and perhaps have an easy way out...to blame it on someone else, huh? Would make more sense that she didn't go walking around at night alone, if she was with someone she knew, whether it be her husband or not. Not that I'M thinking this way...I don't think I am anyway.

Just terrible either way.

03-29-2005

Mexican law enforcement must be very different; they put a lot of details in the newspaper that probably should not be released to the public. The only reason I think they would release those details is because they have no leads-in my humble professional opinion.

<O:p</O:pAlso, when it comes to missing people and murder investigations, the first 48 hours are the most important-that is a fact. That is why I thought the police work was kinda shoddy, but as Denisa pointed out, we do not have all of the facts. Either way, it's a very sad discussion to have.

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I hope they find out what happend.<O:p</O:p

fins · 03-29-2005

Honestly, my third thought was maybe they had a fight & he bashed her in the head himself. I just was hesitant to say it...

**Shammy** · 03-29-2005

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Originally Posted by fins

Honestly, my third thought was maybe they had a fight & he bashed her in the head himself. I just was hesitant to say it...

Well, my brain didn't go into that kind of detail Tony but I really didn't want to say it either. However, I've never been one to keep things to myself! I sure hope no one takes it the wrong way...which is why I put the big disclaimer that IT WAS MY HUSBANDS IDEA in there!

fins · 03-29-2005

Shammy,
What can I say, some of us are sicker than others...
Marty

**Shammy** · 03-29-2005

Oh hi Marty...didn't know if it was you or Tony!

Ahhhh...my husband must be pretty sick too since like I said, that was the first thing out of his mouth, while I on the otherhand, didn't think of it at all.

And this to me is strange anyway because I think of everything before he does! :p

I just hope they figure out what happened.

if you're reading this honey...just kidding!

Andiline · 03-30-2005

Shammy and Fin... I had the same thoughts too (if you read my post you will maybe see that I hinted in this direction as well). Sometimes the circumstances just look too weird.

Regards
Andrea

fins · 03-30-2005

Isn't that the truth, I do hope they discover who did it.

03-30-2005

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Originally Posted by Shammy

Oh hi Marty...didn't know if it was you or Tony!

Ahhhh...my husband must be pretty sick too since like I said, that was the first thing out of his mouth, while I on the otherhand, didn't think of it at all.

And this to me is strange anyway because I think of everything before he does! :p

LOL my wife says the same thing to me! Must be a married thing

Beachnutt · 03-30-2005

I definitely thought of the husband first. It would be interesting to see if there was any followup on this.

schubes · 03-30-2005

If they would have interviewed the guests, they could have determined if the couple had been fighting, etc......it was very, very crowded, a guest would surely have seen or heard something. But guess what, we (the guests) did not know ANYTHING about it. It would have been a kindness to us to let us know to be extra vigilant.....If a guest perpetrated this crime and they did not interview the guests, then the case will not ever be solved. If it was a local person, then I guess that is why there has been no further follow up.
In any event, I cringe at the thought of how it could have just as well happened to me being up before sunrise every morning on the beach and jogging through playcar for an hour before 7:00 a.m. each morning while my husband was still sleeping. I even walked through those playacar ruins early in the morning....I just can't believe what happened to that poor woman.

Critter · 03-30-2005

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Originally Posted by bufante

Mexican law enforcement must be very different; they put a lot of details in the newspaper that probably should not be released to the public. The only reason I think they would release those details is because they have no leads-in my humble professional opinion.

<O:p</O:pAlso, when it comes to missing people and murder investigations, the first 48 hours are the most important-that is a fact. That is why I thought the police work was kinda shoddy, but as Denisa pointed out, we do not have all of the facts. Either way, it's a very sad discussion to have.

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I hope they find out what happend.<O:p</O:p

Not so much Mexican Law as Mexican newspapers, especially Por Esto, and the printed edition is worse than the electronic version. Any photos they can get, any rumor, if they think it will sell the paper gets printed. In most of these cases facts are mixed with fiction to enhance the story.

James A. · 03-30-2005

I think that most people here will agree with me, but I just wanted to reinterate something.

This could happen anywhere. This doesn't indicate that PDC is any more or less dangerous than it was 10 years ago (although I suspect the latter).

Is a person taking a risk walking alone at night on a deserted beach in Galveston, South Beach, Martha's Vineyard, Panama City, or Folley's Island? You bet.

It is tragic but not a total and complete surprise.

James A.

SarahB · 03-30-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by fins

I think it is terribly sad, but my first thought was "why would any woman go walking alone on the beach at night?" Then my second thought is "why would her husband let her go walking alone on the beach at night?" Maybe they had a fight & she stomped off & then this unfortunate thing happened...very sad indeed.

I thought that too at first, but they read that they put the search on hold when it got too dark, so maybe she wasn't out that late at night alone. I'll go back and read...maybe they listed a time when her husband reported her missing.

EDIT: If I am reading this right, it says the police received the call that she was missing at 8:40pm. That's not exactly late. They suspended the search from 9:40-5am and found her body at 6:20am.

Quote:

Originally Posted by James A.

I think that most people here will agree with me, but I just wanted to reinterate something.

This could happen anywhere. This doesn't indicate that PDC is any more or less dangerous than it was 10 years ago (although I suspect the latter).

Is a person taking a risk walking alone at night on a deserted beach in Galveston, South Beach, Martha's Vineyard, Panama City, or Folley's Island? You bet.

It is tragic but not a total and complete surprise.

James A.

I agree, James. Murders in Washington DC are on the news every time I turn the news on it seems. We all have an idea of how Playa is based on our vacations there so it seems that these kind of things shouldn't happen "there" but in reality they happen everywhere.

03-29-2005	#31 (permalink)
fins way into it Join Date: May 2003 Location: phoenix, arizona Posts: 220	I think it is terribly sad, but my first thought was "why would any woman go walking alone on the beach at night?" Then my second thought is "why would her husband let her go walking alone on the beach at night?" Maybe they had a fight & she stomped off & then this unfortunate thing happened...very sad indeed.

03-29-2005	#32 (permalink)
Shammy Travel Insurance Tester Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Joisey Shore Posts: 17,474	I told hubby about this tonight, as many details as we have (which isn't many) and ya know what HE first said? "Did anyone interview the husband...does HE have an alibi"? Now this came out of HIS mouth, I'm just telling you how my husband's mind works (and yes, it does scare me when he thinks like this ). But I never thought of that. And I suppose it could happen...if someone wanted to do away with their spouse and perhaps have an easy way out...to blame it on someone else, huh? Would make more sense that she didn't go walking around at night alone, if she was with someone she knew, whether it be her husband or not. Not that I'M thinking this way...I don't think I am anyway. Just terrible either way.

03-29-2005	#33 (permalink)
bufante Guest Posts: n/a	Mexican law enforcement must be very different; they put a lot of details in the newspaper that probably should not be released to the public. The only reason I think they would release those details is because they have no leads-in my humble professional opinion. <O:p</O:pAlso, when it comes to missing people and murder investigations, the first 48 hours are the most important-that is a fact. That is why I thought the police work was kinda shoddy, but as Denisa pointed out, we do not have all of the facts. Either way, it's a very sad discussion to have. . I hope they find out what happend.<O:p</O:p

03-29-2005	#34 (permalink)
fins way into it Join Date: May 2003 Location: phoenix, arizona Posts: 220	Honestly, my third thought was maybe they had a fight & he bashed her in the head himself. I just was hesitant to say it...

03-29-2005	#36 (permalink)
fins way into it Join Date: May 2003 Location: phoenix, arizona Posts: 220	Shammy, What can I say, some of us are sicker than others... Marty

03-29-2005	#37 (permalink)
Shammy Travel Insurance Tester Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Joisey Shore Posts: 17,474	Oh hi Marty...didn't know if it was you or Tony! Ahhhh...my husband must be pretty sick too since like I said, that was the first thing out of his mouth, while I on the otherhand, didn't think of it at all. And this to me is strange anyway because I think of everything before he does! :p I just hope they figure out what happened. if you're reading this honey...just kidding!

03-30-2005	#38 (permalink)
Andiline añejo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 9,870	Shammy and Fin... I had the same thoughts too (if you read my post you will maybe see that I hinted in this direction as well). Sometimes the circumstances just look too weird. Regards Andrea

03-30-2005	#39 (permalink)
fins way into it Join Date: May 2003 Location: phoenix, arizona Posts: 220	Isn't that the truth, I do hope they discover who did it.

03-30-2005	#41 (permalink)
Beachnutt añejo Join Date: May 2004 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 4,584	I definitely thought of the husband first. It would be interesting to see if there was any followup on this.

03-30-2005	#42 (permalink)
schubes sandflea Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 5	If they would have interviewed the guests, they could have determined if the couple had been fighting, etc......it was very, very crowded, a guest would surely have seen or heard something. But guess what, we (the guests) did not know ANYTHING about it. It would have been a kindness to us to let us know to be extra vigilant.....If a guest perpetrated this crime and they did not interview the guests, then the case will not ever be solved. If it was a local person, then I guess that is why there has been no further follow up. In any event, I cringe at the thought of how it could have just as well happened to me being up before sunrise every morning on the beach and jogging through playcar for an hour before 7:00 a.m. each morning while my husband was still sleeping. I even walked through those playacar ruins early in the morning....I just can't believe what happened to that poor woman.

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03-30-2005	#44 (permalink)
James A. sandbagger vidiot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bell Buckle, TN Posts: 3,102	I think that most people here will agree with me, but I just wanted to reinterate something. This could happen anywhere. This doesn't indicate that PDC is any more or less dangerous than it was 10 years ago (although I suspect the latter). Is a person taking a risk walking alone at night on a deserted beach in Galveston, South Beach, Martha's Vineyard, Panama City, or Folley's Island? You bet. It is tragic but not a total and complete surprise. James A.