atm fraud at banamex

jeevers · 04-01-2005

anyone who used the atm at banamex across the st from el oasis over the easter weekend and used the temporary swipe vs sticking in the card you probably have been cloned
my girlfriend got wiped out for 5000.00 us this morning 4/1 and i got hit for @ 1000.00
call your bank immediately

NorthMinnesota · 04-01-2005

So sorry!

I had my purse stolen several years ago and it is a hassle just dealing with theft! Hope you all have a better weekend!

04-01-2005

Darn, let us know how it turns out.

James, can you revisit this issue. Is it safe if you stick your card in rather than swipe? Where are the safest ATMs? Are the ones at the airport safe, ever had these issues? Are the ones at the airport swipe?

I want to use the ATMs for the conversion rates when I and there.

Andiline · 04-01-2005

Just an info for all those who think that things like that happen only in Mexico: in the past months several banks here in Cologne had the problem that little attachments were put in front of the slit for the card of ATMs which copied the data and then little cameras were installed with which the entry of the PINs was filmed when people entered them on the keyboard. Afterwards with the saved data clones of the ATM-cards were made. Once people knew that this was happening they became more careful and the banks changed the ATMs so that technique became more difficult.

Then it happened that whoever did that became more skilled (as they are working on their technology all the time) and next thing was that they put a keyboard dummy on the real keyboard and with this dummy they save the PINs. The keyboard dummy was so good that it was hard to detect (I think they found out only because it slipped a little bit to one side). Last thing they tried (was successful in Austria) was to blow up an ATM with gas. That was 2 weeks ago but the ATM withheld that effort so they were not successful at least not here in Cologne.

ATM's seem to be a target market for organized crime in Europe these days....

Andrea

**sctx** · 04-01-2005

damn I love my $300 daily limit

**james** · 04-01-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonydead

James, can you revisit this issue. Is it safe if you stick your card in rather than swipe? Where are the safest ATMs? Are the ones at the airport safe, ever had these issues? Are the ones at the airport swipe?

I'll swing by the bank and ask the manager.

Jeevers: there was a "temporary" card swipe? huh?

04-01-2005

We frequently have this problem here in Montreal Quebec Canada... So people just be carefull... When you see that something is strange take care of what you do...

Rafi

angelhouston819 · 04-01-2005

that is the bank that i always use in playa. once i arrive, i stop into el oasis and then across the street to get my pesos. yikes..james...please let me know what the manager says. thanks.

A'ndrea

Andiline · 04-01-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rafi

We frequently have this problem here in Montreal Quebec Canada... So people just be carefull... When you see that something is strange take care of what you do...

Rafi

Yepp, and inform the bank if you see soemthing strange (better inform them once too much than never).

Huey · 04-01-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by sctx

damn I love my $300 daily limit

damn I love my $300 balance...

Kind of like the car I drive, never gets broken into for some reason.

Big Kahuna · 04-01-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huey

damn I love my $300 balance...

Kind of like the car I drive, never gets broken into for some reason.

Now this I can relate to.

jeevers · 04-01-2005

i thought we had a 500 a day maximum
its a 500 per transaction limit with a 5000 per day maximum

and yes james we go to this machine every day or so and commented on how they had changed to swipes vs sticking the card in but recieved no $ we thought it was probably out of $ because of the easter crowds and returned later to see the samer old machines which gave us $
these crooks were very sophisticated and probably had a magnetized add-on that steals your atm info and pin # then they print up cards and go to all the atms with hundreds of peoples cloned cards and go wild
all the transactions were @ 2 am from pdc to bernito juarez and vizcaya wherever that is

DavidB · 04-01-2005

One of the group that was there over St. Pats day also had her card info stolen. Her bank froze her accounts so she didn't lose any money but she lost acces to all her accounts.

04-01-2005

I wanted to use the ATMs because I heard they have the best excahnge rates. Isn't there someplace, in the airport maybe, that will exchange travelers checks at a decent rate??????

FrankT · 04-01-2005

These are the same two ATM machines I have used for the last two years without any problems. They have NEVER had a swipe card reader on the machines that I have used there. BIG BALLS!

Frank

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jeevers beachaholic Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 409	atm fraud at banamex anyone who used the atm at banamex across the st from el oasis over the easter weekend and used the temporary swipe vs sticking in the card you probably have been cloned my girlfriend got wiped out for 5000.00 us this morning 4/1 and i got hit for @ 1000.00 call your bank immediately

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Andiline añejo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 7,242	Just an info for all those who think that things like that happen only in Mexico: in the past months several banks here in Cologne had the problem that little attachments were put in front of the slit for the card of ATMs which copied the data and then little cameras were installed with which the entry of the PINs was filmed when people entered them on the keyboard. Afterwards with the saved data clones of the ATM-cards were made. Once people knew that this was happening they became more careful and the banks changed the ATMs so that technique became more difficult. Then it happened that whoever did that became more skilled (as they are working on their technology all the time) and next thing was that they put a keyboard dummy on the real keyboard and with this dummy they save the PINs. The keyboard dummy was so good that it was hard to detect (I think they found out only because it slipped a little bit to one side). Last thing they tried (was successful in Austria) was to blow up an ATM with gas. That was 2 weeks ago but the ATM withheld that effort so they were not successful at least not here in Cologne. ATM's seem to be a target market for organized crime in Europe these days.... Andrea Last edited by Andiline : 04-01-2005 at 01:13 PM.

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04-01-2005	#2 (permalink)
NorthMinnesota añejo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 5,599	So sorry! I had my purse stolen several years ago and it is a hassle just dealing with theft! Hope you all have a better weekend!

04-01-2005	#3 (permalink)
tonydead Posts: n/a	Darn, let us know how it turns out. James, can you revisit this issue. Is it safe if you stick your card in rather than swipe? Where are the safest ATMs? Are the ones at the airport safe, ever had these issues? Are the ones at the airport swipe? I want to use the ATMs for the conversion rates when I and there.

04-01-2005	#5 (permalink)
sctx Fan of confusion Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Body in San Marcos Tx....Tankah in my mind Posts: 26,049	damn I love my $300 daily limit

04-01-2005	#7 (permalink)
Rafi Posts: n/a	We frequently have this problem here in Montreal Quebec Canada... So people just be carefull... When you see that something is strange take care of what you do... Rafi

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angelhouston819 añejo Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Tyler, Texas Posts: 4,666	that is the bank that i always use in playa. once i arrive, i stop into el oasis and then across the street to get my pesos. yikes..james...please let me know what the manager says. thanks. A'ndrea

04-01-2005	#12 (permalink)
jeevers beachaholic Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 409	i thought we had a 500 a day maximum its a 500 per transaction limit with a 5000 per day maximum and yes james we go to this machine every day or so and commented on how they had changed to swipes vs sticking the card in but recieved no $ we thought it was probably out of $ because of the easter crowds and returned later to see the samer old machines which gave us $ these crooks were very sophisticated and probably had a magnetized add-on that steals your atm info and pin # then they print up cards and go to all the atms with hundreds of peoples cloned cards and go wild all the transactions were @ 2 am from pdc to bernito juarez and vizcaya wherever that is

04-01-2005	#13 (permalink)
DavidB añejo Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Mid Mich Posts: 2,755	One of the group that was there over St. Pats day also had her card info stolen. Her bank froze her accounts so she didn't lose any money but she lost acces to all her accounts.

04-01-2005	#14 (permalink)
tonydead Posts: n/a	I wanted to use the ATMs because I heard they have the best excahnge rates. Isn't there someplace, in the airport maybe, that will exchange travelers checks at a decent rate??????

04-01-2005	#15 (permalink)
FrankT beachaholic Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Mendota Heights, MN Posts: 356	These are the same two ATM machines I have used for the last two years without any problems. They have NEVER had a swipe card reader on the machines that I have used there. BIG BALLS! Frank

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