Viking Fans "Let's hear it!"

[ThrushJockey]

Originally Posted by bufante

I'm a Green Bay fan....having said that, TJ, love the avatar, we deserve it.

Thanks, I sure hope you won't be able to turn it around on me after the next meeting.

[bufante]

Originally Posted by ThrushJockey

Thanks, I sure hope you won't be able to turn it around on me after the next meeting.

You know that is how it is going to work...

[ThrushJockey]

Did coming back from a 17 point deficit and beating the Packers in an emotional win last week breath new life into the Vikings? We'll find out Sunday when the Vikings take on the Panthers.

I'm outta here for the weekend, will be back Monday to talk about the Vikes big Victory on the road. I hope!

[ennui]

Go Panthers!

[sctx]

Originally Posted by ThrushJockey

Did coming back from a 17 point deficit and beating the Packers in an emotional win last week breath new life into the Vikings?

yeah, it's tough battling for last place in the NFC North !!!..... I'm betting all four teams tie for last place in that division

[ThrushJockey]

Originally Posted by ennui

Go Panthers!

That was an impressive victory. Hats off!

[ThrushJockey]

Originally Posted by sctx

yeah, it's tough battling for last place in the NFC North !!!..... I'm betting all four teams tie for last place in that division

Ouch!!

As I have said before, I did not see this horrible season coming. On top of that I did not think Dallas would win more than 6 games. I admit, I was way off this year.

[Mikey]

Yes I think everyone was as far as Dallas....We should be 7-1 but 5-3 is good enough for this time of year....I still think we will be 10-6 maybe 11-5 If we can finish the game in the last two minutes.....Good Luck with MN....

[trog]

Originally Posted by ThrushJockey

Ouch!!

As I have said before, I did not see this horrible season coming. On top of that I did not think Dallas would win more than 6 games. I admit, I was way off this year.

Coach Mike Tice, Quarterback Culpepper, nuff said. Hopefully new ownership will change the dynamic of the team. Maybe the worst vikings team ever.

[ThrushJockey]

Originally Posted by trog

Coach Mike Tice, Quarterback Culpepper, nuff said. Hopefully new ownership will change the dynamic of the team. Maybe the worst vikings team ever.

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I will give you Mike Tice, but Culpepper? You can't lay this season at his feet! He has been sacked 31 times and we aren't even half way through the season yet! Just look at any quarterback that has been smacked around like Daunte has and who's team can't run, you won't find positive stats. I would still take him over 90% of the quarterbacks in the NFL. Just look at last years stats.


With this years horrible quarterback rateing of 72, his carear rating is still 91.5! That is not a bad quarterback.

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[ThrushJockey]

Let's compare some stats from some "good" quarterbacks in the NFL.

Peyton Manning - Rate : 92.6
Tom Bradey - Rate : 88.1
Brett Farve - Rate : 87.3

These are career stats - Compare to D.C. at 91.5

Then take into account 2476 yds rushing and 29 rushing TDs.

[sctx]

Originally Posted by ThrushJockey

Let's compare some stats from some "good" quarterbacks in the NFL.

Peyton Manning - Rate : 92.6
Tom Bradey - Rate : 88.1
Brett Farve - Rate : 87.3

These are career stats - Compare to D.C. at 91.5

Then take into account 2476 yds rushing and 29 rushing TDs.

yeah, and the Vikings even scored a TD yesterday!!!!... it's not the end of the world till you start trying to kick your opponents to death like the Cowboys did 3 or 4 years ago

[ThrushJockey]

Here are some more facts to chew on. (for those who want to blame the Vikings problems on Daunte Culpepper)

Professional Information:
Enters his 6<SUP>th</SUP> season as the Vikings st<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 /><st1:PersonName w:st="on">art</st1:PersonName>er in 2005... Signed 10-year contract extension on 5/9/03...Has thrown a TD pass in 21 straight games, a streak that is alive entering the 2005 season and trails his own team record of 24...Has the 3<SUP>rd</SUP>-highest career passer rating in NFL history at 93.2...Set the 4<SUP>th</SUP>-highest passer rating in a season in NFL history at 110.9 in 2004...St<st1:PersonName w:st="on">art</st1:PersonName>ed 2<SUP>nd</SUP> Pro Bowl of his career following the 2003 season...Set Vikings record by completing 69.2% of his passes in 2004...Holds 3 of the top 4 single-season passer ratings in team history, 110.9 in 2004, 98.0 in 2000 and 96.4 in 2003... Joins Tommy Kramer and Warren Moon as the only Vikings QBs with multiple 3,000-yard passing seasons...Set Vikings record by hitting 60% of his passes in 14 games (minimum 20 attempts in 2004...Has accounted for 157 career TDs (129 passing, 28 rushing)...

how about some more.........

2004 Earned Pro Bowl honors for 2<SUP>nd</SUP> straight season and 3<SUP>rd</SUP> time in his 5 seasons as a st<st1:PersonName w:st="on">art</st1:PersonName>er...Set NFL record for most combined passing/rushing yardage in a season with 5,123, breaking record held by Dan Marino in 1984 at 5,077...His 41 combined passing/rushing TDs ranks tied for the 7<SUP>th</SUP>-best performance in NFL history...Set virtually every Vikings single-season passing record in 2004...Set an NFL record by throwing for 5 TDs in 3 separate games...Named NFC Offensive Player of the Week 4 times on the season, including 3 of the opening 5 weeks of 2004...Named NFC Offensive Player of the Month in October...Named FedEx Air Player of the Week for games at Houston and at New Orleans, earning $10,000 total in donations for Fairview University Children's Hospital...Tied for 7<SUP>th</SUP> in NFL history with 41 combined rushing/passing TDs...Notched the 4<SUP>th</SUP>-best passer rating in NFL history, posting a 110.9 mark...Led the NFL in passing yardage (4,717) for the 1<SUP>st</SUP> time in career and only the 3<SUP>rd</SUP> time in Vikings history, joining Tommy Kramer (1986) and Randall Cunningham (1998)...Led the NFL with a 69.2 completion percentage...Ranked 2<SUP>nd</SUP> in the NFL with 39 TD passes and a 110.9 passer rating, trailing only Peyton Manning in each category...Set a Vikings record by completing 60% of his passes in 14 games on the season (minimum 20 attempts)...Guided the Vikings to the highest yardage total in team history with 6,339 yards, an average of 396.2 per game...Tied Vikings record with 4 games of 4+ passing TDs on the season...Set a Vikings record with 4 consecutive games of 300+ yards passing (at Philadelphia-at New Orleans)...Tied Vikings record with 6 games of 300+ yards passing on the season, matching Warren Moon's mark from 1994...Set Vikings season records for completions (379)...Connected on an 82-yard TD with Randy Moss at Detroit (12/19), the longest pass play in the NFL in 2004, is tied for 5<SUP>th</SUP>-longest in Vikings history and is his the longest pass play in either players' career...Had 9 games on the season where he did not throw an interception, setting a Vikings record...Tied career-low with 11 interceptions...Ran for 2 TDs in regular season and added another in playoffs, rushing for the Vikings 1<SUP>st</SUP> score in Divisional Playoff at Philadelphia (1/16/05)...Became the 1<SUP>st</SUP> Vikings QB to throw for 300+ yards in multiple playoff games when he threw for 316 at Philadelphia (1/16/05)...Tied Vikings record when he threw for 4 TDs in Wild Card playoff game at Green Bay (1/9/05)...Guided Vikings to 605 yards of offense at New Orleans (10/17), the 2<SUP>nd</SUP>-highest total in Vikings history...Set career-high with a 151.3 passer rating vs. Green Bay (12/24).

Think about it............ five seasons as stater (before the start of the 05 season) and 3 pro bowls.

Oh ya I can see how some people think he is a bad quarterback.

Minnesota fans are doing what they typically do. Jump off the band wagon and start demanding a new player (in this case Culpepper).

[trog]

Originally Posted by ThrushJockey

Here are some more facts to chew on. (for those who want to blame the Vikings problems on Daunte Culpepper)

Professional Information:
Enters his 6<SUP>th</SUP> season as the Vikings st<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 /><st1:PersonName w:st="on">art</st1:PersonName>er in 2005... Signed 10-year contract extension on 5/9/03...Has thrown a TD pass in 21 straight games, a streak that is alive entering the 2005 season and trails his own team record of 24...Has the 3<SUP>rd</SUP>-highest career passer rating in NFL history at 93.2...Set the 4<SUP>th</SUP>-highest passer rating in a season in NFL history at 110.9 in 2004...St<st1:PersonName w:st="on">art</st1:PersonName>ed 2<SUP>nd</SUP> Pro Bowl of his career following the 2003 season...Set Vikings record by completing 69.2% of his passes in 2004...Holds 3 of the top 4 single-season passer ratings in team history, 110.9 in 2004, 98.0 in 2000 and 96.4 in 2003... Joins Tommy Kramer and Warren Moon as the only Vikings QBs with multiple 3,000-yard passing seasons...Set Vikings record by hitting 60% of his passes in 14 games (minimum 20 attempts in 2004...Has accounted for 157 career TDs (129 passing, 28 rushing)...

how about some more.........

2004 Earned Pro Bowl honors for 2<SUP>nd</SUP> straight season and 3<SUP>rd</SUP> time in his 5 seasons as a st<st1:PersonName w:st="on">art</st1:PersonName>er...Set NFL record for most combined passing/rushing yardage in a season with 5,123, breaking record held by Dan Marino in 1984 at 5,077...His 41 combined passing/rushing TDs ranks tied for the 7<SUP>th</SUP>-best performance in NFL history...Set virtually every Vikings single-season passing record in 2004...Set an NFL record by throwing for 5 TDs in 3 separate games...Named NFC Offensive Player of the Week 4 times on the season, including 3 of the opening 5 weeks of 2004...Named NFC Offensive Player of the Month in October...Named FedEx Air Player of the Week for games at Houston and at New Orleans, earning $10,000 total in donations for Fairview University Children's Hospital...Tied for 7<SUP>th</SUP> in NFL history with 41 combined rushing/passing TDs...Notched the 4<SUP>th</SUP>-best passer rating in NFL history, posting a 110.9 mark...Led the NFL in passing yardage (4,717) for the 1<SUP>st</SUP> time in career and only the 3<SUP>rd</SUP> time in Vikings history, joining Tommy Kramer (1986) and Randall Cunningham (1998)...Led the NFL with a 69.2 completion percentage...Ranked 2<SUP>nd</SUP> in the NFL with 39 TD passes and a 110.9 passer rating, trailing only Peyton Manning in each category...Set a Vikings record by completing 60% of his passes in 14 games on the season (minimum 20 attempts)...Guided the Vikings to the highest yardage total in team history with 6,339 yards, an average of 396.2 per game...Tied Vikings record with 4 games of 4+ passing TDs on the season...Set a Vikings record with 4 consecutive games of 300+ yards passing (at Philadelphia-at New Orleans)...Tied Vikings record with 6 games of 300+ yards passing on the season, matching Warren Moon's mark from 1994...Set Vikings season records for completions (379)...Connected on an 82-yard TD with Randy Moss at Detroit (12/19), the longest pass play in the NFL in 2004, is tied for 5<SUP>th</SUP>-longest in Vikings history and is his the longest pass play in either players' career...Had 9 games on the season where he did not throw an interception, setting a Vikings record...Tied career-low with 11 interceptions...Ran for 2 TDs in regular season and added another in playoffs, rushing for the Vikings 1<SUP>st</SUP> score in Divisional Playoff at Philadelphia (1/16/05)...Became the 1<SUP>st</SUP> Vikings QB to throw for 300+ yards in multiple playoff games when he threw for 316 at Philadelphia (1/16/05)...Tied Vikings record when he threw for 4 TDs in Wild Card playoff game at Green Bay (1/9/05)...Guided Vikings to 605 yards of offense at New Orleans (10/17), the 2<SUP>nd</SUP>-highest total in Vikings history...Set career-high with a 151.3 passer rating vs. Green Bay (12/24).

Think about it............ five seasons as stater (before the start of the 05 season) and 3 pro bowls.

Oh ya I can see how some people think he is a bad quarterback.

Minnesota fans are doing what they typically do. Jump off the band wagon and start demanding a new player (in this case Culpepper).

No need to get testy. I have been a Vikings fan since the early 60's. Leadership is more important than stats. Winning important games a la Joe Montana. leadership on the field. The ability to make snap decisions and improvise. the intangibles are more important than raw ability. I have never seen a worse quarterback at reading defenses and not being able to feel pressure from behind. IMHO he is not a first rate quarterback and will never lead a team to a super bowl. The Vikings are in disarray on and off of the field. No team character or heart. Tice can't coach. Second most penalized team in pro football, doesn't know the basics of clock utilization, etc. The only stat that counts is the win-loss record and your record in important, pivotal games and in this regard he is a loser.

[trog]

We are just under 4 hours until the next NFC North Champs kickoff the new season. Let's here all the predictions for the Vikes this year. I say NFC North Champs, then a very good chance of NFC Champs.

Tonights game won't show us much because Tice has already stated that the starters will only see about 12-15 plays. But at least the FB season has started!

Hell hath no fury like a hardcore fan scorned.