Cpt. Dave's/La Fortuna open again!!! - Page 6

**Heather** · 07-13-2006

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Originally Posted by Tori

Hey yall

remember me??? Tori??

heard a vicious rumor that grady was leaving?? did he make it?

hope y'all are all good, missing you all loads, and Michelle, Rob was never that good at getting home early or ar least getting off the deck early, do you really expect him to change, thats why we all love him!

Tori

Grady is not in Playa right now, to my knowledge. He needed a sabbatical. And Rob is Mr. Responsible Workin' man now. Boy, the times they are a changin'.

Michele · 07-13-2006

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Originally Posted by Tori

Hey yall

remember me??? Tori??

heard a vicious rumor that grady was leaving?? did he make it?

hope y'all are all good, missing you all loads, and Michelle, Rob was never that good at getting home early or ar least getting off the deck early, do you really expect him to change, thats why we all love him!

Tori

Oh Gawd!!! There goes the neighborhood!! How you doing kiddo? Grady is up in Louisianna on a much needed break. How's Spain? How's the pup? Construction boy toy?
Lots of folks you know on here. It's almost like being here...only more sober.

Michele · 07-13-2006

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Originally Posted by Heather

Grady is not in Playa right now, to my knowledge. He needed a sabbatical. And Rob is Mr. Responsible Workin' man now. Boy, the times they are a changin'.

Slanderous!!!! Don't let Rob hear you talking like that!

diogeron · 07-13-2006

Hey, I love that place and have managed even to sing a few John Prine songs there with Grady. I too would leave the IU flag,

since my wife is a professor at IU and we live in Bloomington! I'd even put up with a Purdue flag, since my brother is an alum and a good guy. Having said that, if it were up to me (which it obviously isn't) I'd give the IU flag up if they agreed to take the Confederate flag down,

something I've heard from several people over the past few years. When we were there over Christmas with our kids (young adults) I had to gangster them to go there by threatening to make them pay for their own beers because they saw the flag and said, "I don't think this is a place I want to hang out with all the other cool places we can go." Fortunately, they capitulated. Must have been the beer issue, I think

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Originally Posted by rohausser

Leave the Indiana University flag up - on my next trip, I already have a Purdue flag to cover it! (...and a Utah flag, which isn't much different than the Confederate flag!)

ReadyTRock · 07-13-2006

Personally, I could give a rip less about hanging a piece of cloth. It´´s the music, it´´s the place, it´´s where I´´d like to be.

**Heather** · 07-14-2006

Remember that the bar owner is not only English, he's Keith. He probably doesn't even realize the horrid significance you're attaching to the Confederate flag.

diogeron · 07-14-2006

Yes, I know. I've met Keith and I like him and you're probably right. Of course, meaning is always attributed to any symbol since there is no "meaning" inherent in any symbol. That's why it's a symbol. To think otherwise, is to make something a relic or an idol. When we present any symbol to others, whether it's an IU flag, a cross, a star of David, or a Cubs hat, the person "presenting" usually does it for a reason, although they might not know any better, kind of like young teens who wear a swastika and never heard of the Second World War. The implicit response by those who view or interact with that symbol might be: (a) Duh. What's that mean? (b) We have something in common and I share at least one of your values, passions, etc. or (c) That's repulsive because I don't share your values or a whole host of reactions that are variations on that theme. As someone who believes in free speech, I think people have a right to "present" whatever symbols they choose and others have a right to say, "I don't like that symbol." It's Keith's bar and he has every right to have up whatever symbols he wants and the rest of us have a right to not go there because he has a Confederate flag hanging up, to go there in spite of the confederate flag (what I do because I like Keith and his wife and the music, although that flag seems a throwback to a darker period in American history to me)_, or to go there, at least in part, BECAUSE there is a Confederate flag. That's all I'm saying.

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Originally Posted by Heather

Remember that the bar owner is not only English, he's Keith. He probably doesn't even realize the horrid significance you're attaching to the Confederate flag.

kittiekat · 07-14-2006

I am interested in finding out more about the southern food that is rumored to be served on certain days

If anyone knows which days, we sure do want to know.
ummmm....................

**Heather** · 07-14-2006

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Originally Posted by diogeron

It's Keith's bar and he has every right to have up whatever symbols he wants and the rest of us have a right to not go there because he has a Confederate flag hanging up, to go there in spite of the confederate flag (what I do because I like Keith and his wife and the music, although that flag seems a throwback to a darker period in American history to me, or to go there, at least in part, BECAUSE there is a Confederate flag. That's all I'm saying.

Get it and got it. I just wanted to point out that Keith just hangs up flags people give him. I'm sure he might be a bit put off himself if he knew what that flag has come to mean in the US.

synestere · 07-14-2006

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Originally Posted by Heather

Remember that the bar owner is not only English, he's Keith. He probably doesn't even realize the horrid significance you're attaching to the Confederate flag.

Not only is he English but he´s a Manc

ReadyTRock · 07-14-2006

I was born in Dennis, Mississippi (yep, Tishamingo county, between Tishamingo and Belmont), and I know what discrimination and biggotry look like (sorry if any of you feel unintentionally criticized). You won´t find any of that around Dave´s. I think a flag has to be openly supported, or should I say, openly defended, in order for there to be a significance. Listen to the music. You won´t be offended.

synestere · 07-14-2006

Quote -Listen to the music. You won´t be offended.

Not even when Carlos sings " down in France " ?

ReadyTRock · 07-14-2006

Syn,

You have a great attitude...a shame we never met.

Ya, the last line to Down in France cracks me up. It´s Zappa. No more needs to be said.

Michele · 07-14-2006

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Originally Posted by ReadyTRock

Syn,

You have a great attitude...a shame we never met.

Ya, the last line to Down in France cracks me up. It´s Zappa. No more needs to be said.

It is not possible that you two have not met. I know for a fact that you have been at the bar at the same time. I will be more diligent next time with introductions.

diogeron · 07-14-2006

AAAAAgain? is the needle stuck?

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Originally Posted by synestere

Quote -Listen to the music. You won´t be offended.

Not even when Carlos sings " down in France " ?

07-13-2006	#80 (permalink)
ReadyTRock beachaholic Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 392	Personally, I could give a rip less about hanging a piece of cloth. It´´s the music, it´´s the place, it´´s where I´´d like to be.

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Heather employee of the month Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Tulum Posts: 11,756	Remember that the bar owner is not only English, he's Keith. He probably doesn't even realize the horrid significance you're attaching to the Confederate flag.

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kittiekat life=playa Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: PDC in the campestre at La Casa del Mango Posts: 570	I am interested in finding out more about the southern food that is rumored to be served on certain days If anyone knows which days, we sure do want to know. ummmm....................

07-14-2006	#86 (permalink)
ReadyTRock beachaholic Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 392	I was born in Dennis, Mississippi (yep, Tishamingo county, between Tishamingo and Belmont), and I know what discrimination and biggotry look like (sorry if any of you feel unintentionally criticized). You won´t find any of that around Dave´s. I think a flag has to be openly supported, or should I say, openly defended, in order for there to be a significance. Listen to the music. You won´t be offended.

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07-14-2006	#88 (permalink)
ReadyTRock beachaholic Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 392	Syn, You have a great attitude...a shame we never met. Ya, the last line to Down in France cracks me up. It´s Zappa. No more needs to be said.

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