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Old 12-05-2005   #1 (permalink)
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Mexican Mail advice compared to Monty Python

Amazing as it sounds I've had the 4th person from the UK today doubt and question my very specific advice to not use the normal post under any circumstances when sending stuff to Mexico. Use FedEx. Despite my continous reminders, twice this year people have sent things by air mail and it took weeks to get here.

It's like that scene in Monty Python's Holy Grail where he tells the guards to guard the prince...

FATHER

Make sure the Prince doesn't leave this room until I come and get him.

FIRST GUARD

Not ... to leave the room ... even if you come and get him.

FATHER

No. Until I come and get him.

SECOND GUARD

Hic.

FIRST GUARD

Until you come and get him, we're not to enter the room.

FATHER

No ... You stay in the room and make sure he doesn't leave.

FIRST GUARD

... and you'll come and get him.


SECOND GUARD

Hic.

FATHER

That's Right.

FIRST GUARD

We don't need to do anything, apart from just stop him entering the room.

FATHER

Leaving the room.

FIRST GUARD

Leaving the room ... yes.

FATHER

Got it?

SECOND GUARD

Hic.

FATHER makes to leave.

FIRST GUARD

Er ... if ... we ... er ...

FATHER
Yes?

FIRST GUARD

If we ... er ...

(trying to remember what he was going to say)

FATHER

Look, it's simple. Just stay here and make sure he doesn't leave the room.

SECOND GUARD

Hic.

FATHER

Right?

FIRST GUARD

Oh, I remember ... can he ... er ... can he leave the room with us?

FATHER
(carefully)

No .... keep him in here ... and make sure he doesn't ...

FIRST GUARD

Oh, yes! we'll keep him in here, obviously. But if he had to leave and we were with him.

FATHER

No ... just keep him in here.

FIRST GUARD

Until you, or anyone else ...

FATHER

No, not anyone else - just me.

FIRST GUARD

Just you ...

SECOND GUARD

Hic.

FIRST GUARD

Get back.

FATHER

Right.

FIRST GUARD

Okay. Fine. We'll remain here until you get back.

FATHER

And make sure he doesn't leave.

FIRST GUARD

What?

FATHER

Make sure he doesn't leave.

FIRST GUARD

The Prince ... ?

FATHER

Yes ... make sure ...

FIRST GUARD

Oh yes, of course! I thought you meant him!

(he points to the other GUARD and laughs to himself)

You know it seemed a bit daft me havin' to guard him when he's a guard ...

FATHER

Is that clear?

SECOND GUARD

Hic.

FIRST GUARD

Oh, yes. That's quite clear. No problems.

FATHER pulls open the door and makes to leave the room. The GUARDS follow.


FATHER

(to the GUARDS)

Where are you going?


FIRST GUARD

We're coming with you.


FATHER

No, I want you to stay here and make sure he doesn't leave the room until I get back.

FIRST GUARD

Oh, I see, Right.
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Old 12-05-2005   #2 (permalink)
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Amazing as it sounds I've had the 4th person from the UK today doubt and question my very specific advice to not use the normal post under any circumstances when sending stuff to Mexico. Use FedEx. Despite my continous reminders, twice this year people have sent things by air mail and it took weeks to get here.

It's like that scene in Monty Python's Holy Grail where he tells the guards to guard the prince...

FATHER

Make sure the Prince doesn't leave this room until I come and get him.

FIRST GUARD

Not ... to leave the room ... even if you come and get him.

FATHER

No. Until I come and get him.

SECOND GUARD

Hic.

FIRST GUARD

Until you come and get him, we're not to enter the room.

FATHER

No ... You stay in the room and make sure he doesn't leave.

FIRST GUARD

... and you'll come and get him.


SECOND GUARD

Hic.

FATHER

That's Right.

FIRST GUARD

We don't need to do anything, apart from just stop him entering the room.

FATHER

Leaving the room.

FIRST GUARD

Leaving the room ... yes.

FATHER

Got it?

SECOND GUARD

Hic.

FATHER makes to leave.

FIRST GUARD

Er ... if ... we ... er ...

FATHER
Yes?

FIRST GUARD

If we ... er ...

(trying to remember what he was going to say)

FATHER

Look, it's simple. Just stay here and make sure he doesn't leave the room.

SECOND GUARD

Hic.

FATHER

Right?

FIRST GUARD

Oh, I remember ... can he ... er ... can he leave the room with us?

FATHER
(carefully)

No .... keep him in here ... and make sure he doesn't ...

FIRST GUARD

Oh, yes! we'll keep him in here, obviously. But if he had to leave and we were with him.

FATHER

No ... just keep him in here.

FIRST GUARD

Until you, or anyone else ...

FATHER

No, not anyone else - just me.

FIRST GUARD

Just you ...

SECOND GUARD

Hic.

FIRST GUARD

Get back.

FATHER

Right.

FIRST GUARD

Okay. Fine. We'll remain here until you get back.

FATHER

And make sure he doesn't leave.

FIRST GUARD

What?

FATHER

Make sure he doesn't leave.

FIRST GUARD

The Prince ... ?

FATHER

Yes ... make sure ...

FIRST GUARD

Oh yes, of course! I thought you meant him!

(he points to the other GUARD and laughs to himself)

You know it seemed a bit daft me havin' to guard him when he's a guard ...

FATHER

Is that clear?

SECOND GUARD

Hic.

FIRST GUARD

Oh, yes. That's quite clear. No problems.

FATHER pulls open the door and makes to leave the room. The GUARDS follow.


FATHER

(to the GUARDS)

Where are you going?


FIRST GUARD

We're coming with you.


FATHER

No, I want you to stay here and make sure he doesn't leave the room until I get back.

FIRST GUARD

Oh, I see, Right.
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... and don't use the normal post.
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Yeah, the Mexican mail system is so bad it's almost non-existent. I've had many things disappear, and the things that do arrive often sit at the post office here in Playa for a couple of months before they get delivered. And the whole street address thing too, it's like it's a total novelty. Here's an example of a very typical conversation when ordering a pizza or anything else to be delivered to your house:

ME: the address is Calle X between Avenida Y and Z, house number 8.
THEM: do you have a reference for the house?
ME: what do you mean reference (well, I don't have to ask that anymore, but at first...)
THEM: the color of the house, a big tree in front, for example
ME: Well, it has a number 8 on the door
THEM: any other reference?
ME: it's between house number 7 and 9
THEM: what color is the house?
and so on

Then the pizza guys shows up on his scooter and randomly honks his horn, like he has no idea where he's going and you have to run out to catch him.

You just have to love the ideosyncracies of Mexico. You have to learn how to smile at frustration.
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In all fairness, I must report that in 2002 I sent several (like 4) large boxes of paperback books to friends in PDC via the USPS slow boat and they made it to the PDC CP box in approximately 3-4 months each (not the forecasted 36 days ha-ha) ... I had sent postcards from PDC which took as long to get to USA so I was sure the books would either never make it or it would take at least 6 months ... even more important the book boxes were not tampered with and no customs fee of any kind was charged since they were indeed a gift ... I send indivdual books to Europe via slow boat and they can take 60 days (more or less) to reach the address ... I believe the burros in the Mexican postal system have good days and bad ones like everyone else
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I have a friend who didn't believe me about the mail, so, just to test it - and to spite me - he folded up a piece of paper in a legal envelope and addressed the thing to me with "CHECK ENCLOSED!" written in English on the front. The irony of it is that it got here in one week, unopened, perfectly intact! Of course there was no check inside, but there never was.

I also had a "Christmas Care Package" sent to me by another friend that got here in about 3 weeks. Again, it hadn't been opened, and everything inside was intact, if melted (some people just don't get that "it's hot in December" thing).

When I had Cingular after I first moved here, everything was fine at first and then they started adding random $10 charges to every 3rd phone call or so, so I went online, wasn't able to cancel my service that way (grr) so I changed my billing address to my Mexico one. Wouldn't you know the damn bill me reached me in a timely fashion?

Amazingly enough, I don't have ANY stories of mail not reaching me or sending out mail that didn't get where it was supposed to go (haven't even tried), but I still would never count on the Mexican mail!
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We also have not received a phone bill or a cable bill in months. We typically get one or two phone bills a year (they're supposed to come every month). We have received packages via Fedex and UPS that have been opened so carelessly the things inside were torn. This is why we always ask the good people of this forum to help us out muling things down from the US for us - you have no idea how appreciated it is!
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Yep, you can risk getting cut off if you wait for the bills.

Funny how here you have to accept things are going to be late for you, but don't even dream of paying late!

All my FedEx deliveries have been fine so far thankfully.
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Hi all. Well up here where everything is extremely expensive....can't afford fed ex..its $169.00. So my question is ..has anyone used air mail from Canada to Mexico? Ground mail is said to take up to 3 months but they claim that air mail should get there within 3 weeks. I am sending a christmas parcel (yes, I know I'm leaving it 'til the last possible second!! haha) and tho it would be nice to have it there for Christmas, through my own late fault, just to have it there within the next month would be nice. (Hope my choclates don't melt) haha Thanks.
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My STRONG advice is to NOT send a parcel with normal mail. Don't do it. It will either not get here at all, or get here too late and/or destroyed. It doesn't matter what the postal service in your first-world country says - it's totally irrelevant when it comes to actually getting the parcel delivered here.

Please feel free to start a new thread on this forum asking if someone can bring it down with them, so you only have to send your parcel within Canada or to the US (if that's ok price-wise). You may want to leave it un-wrapped so that the person bringing it feels ok about it. Your friend can then meet up with the mule and receive his gifts that way.

That's the ONLY way I would even consider sending a parcel to Mexico, especially at Christmas time.
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One of my friends in Playa found out his postman, Jesus, was throwing post away instead of delivering it. He wasn't the Messiah, he was a very naughty boy. He was also stealing money form envelopes and spending it in the Dead Blue Parrot.

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I have never had any luck mailing in or out of Mexico and all I've ever mailed is postcards. I've mailed many packages, watches, Barbie and all kinds of things to Greece (which isn't known for it's efficient or honest post system) and all of them have made it. My friend Dina (who lives there) says she gets an electric bill about twice a year. My packages usually take a month to a month and half. I use the mule system and am always happy to be the mule if needed.
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One of my friends in Playa found out his postman, Jesus, was throwing post away instead of delivering it.

That happened in Chicago too, don't feel bad!
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I'm sure every country has a few postman that rifle the mail or throw it away. I know in Minneapolis this happened a few years back. Some people embezle from their companies. Look at ENRON.
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[quote=That happened in Chicago too, don't feel bad![/QUOTE]

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