Our Lady of Guadalupe

playabum17 · 12-12-2005

I have this on my calendar today (because I set it up to get Mexican Holiday's on my Outlook) Anyone know exactly what this is? I guess I could Google it, but this is more fun!

bigdave · 12-12-2005

due to curiousity i will have to follow this thread.........

PlayadelSoul · 12-12-2005

It is one of the biggest days in the Mexican Catholic Church (after Holy Week and Christmas), commemerating the sighting of the Virgin Mary by an Indian. It is not an official holiday, however.

**Heather** · 12-12-2005

I wondered what all that noise was about last night...had to come in and ask Sonia. Firecrackers, honking, shouting...I had no idea.

Sonia · 12-12-2005

Ok so Juan Diego (the indian who saw the virgin) was walking around, minding his own business when BUM! There's the Virgen, right in front of him!
So she tells him in his own language, nahuatl, that she wants a temple, built right there, and asks him to go to the bishop to get it done. The bishop (of course) didn't believe a word and asked him for proof. A few days after the Virgen asked Juan Diego to pick up some flowers before he went to see the bishop again. He found some beautiful roses never before seen in that area, he took them to the bishop, holding them in his clothes, and when he showed him the roses, he saw this:

I think he's a saint now, or is in the process of becoming one.

Seakony · 12-12-2005

Dallas's big cathedral was renamed in her honor and there is a huge tapestry of her hanging over the main altar. Visions Blessed Mother has been known to show up all over the world, the most famous being Lourdes, Fatima, and Medjugorde to name a few.

mofi · 12-12-2005

You can find miniture statues of her everywhere. I don't recall being in a taxi that didn't have one.

playabum17 · 12-12-2005

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You can find miniture statues of her everywhere. I don't recall being in a taxi that didn't have one.

Guess I never noticed that. Then again if I am in a taxi it's usually because it's really late and I've had too much to drink.

bigdave · 12-12-2005

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Originally Posted by playabum17

Guess I never noticed that. Then again if I am in a taxi it's usually because it's really late and I've had too much to drink.

PB you gotta be able to sit up to see them.
of course you see one now on your way to your room after drinking all nite, you may think you are dreaming and someone is trying to tell you something.

playabum17 · 12-12-2005

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Originally Posted by bigdave

PB you gotta be able to sit up to see them.
of course you see one now on your way to your room after drinking all nite, you may think you are dreaming and someone is trying to tell you something.

Ya got me there!

mofi · 12-12-2005

haha. hillarious....theres also posters of her all over the place to, and candles with her picture on them....and the list goes on and on and on.

Sol · 12-12-2005

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Originally Posted by Sonia

Ok so Juan Diego (the indian who saw the virgin) was walking around, minding his own business when BUM! There's the Virgen, right in front of him!
So she tells him in his own language, nahuatl, that she wants a temple, built right there, and asks him to go to the bishop to get it done. The bishop (of course) didn't believe a word and asked him for proof. A few days after the Virgen asked Juan Diego to pick up some flowers before he went to see the bishop again. He found some beautiful roses never before seen in that area, he took them to the bishop, holding them in his clothes, and when he showed him the roses, he saw this:

I think he's a saint now, or is in the process of becoming one.

Sonia,

I like your version of the story. Actually, what many people believe is that Juan Diego had gone to el Tepeyac, a hillside, to pray for his uncle who was very ill. The Virgin appeared before him to make a deal. If a chapel was built at that site, she would grant him the miracle of healing JD's uncle. Pope Paul made him a saint in 2003 (I think).

Some people think that the Spaniards invented this appearance in order to convince the indigenous peoples to convert to catholicism.

caramba · 12-15-2005

Nice to hear the stories; we'd never quite gotten the "jist" of the holiday, but every time we've been in Mexico this time of year, which has been quite a few times, we always see pilgrims running down the highway with torches, processions with floats depicting the Virgin appearing to Juan Diego, pilgrims on their hands and knees making their way to the cathedral (Puerto Vallarta), etc., etc. in the days proceeding the holiday.
Not sure if the actual day is December 10th, 11th or 12th but it is definitely one of those days.
On Sunday just after dusk, returning from Yal-ku/Akumal there was one little procession just to the south of Playa heading into town consisting of a police car with lights flashing and siren howling, a truck just ahead with torch runner out in front, with fireworks shooting off the top of the truck.
I guess there was a big parade in town a while later but we missed it.

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bigdave añejo Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: short plane ride away from heaven on earth Posts: 2,673	due to curiousity i will have to follow this thread.........

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PlayadelSoul añejo Join Date: May 2005 Location: We'll know when we get there, We'll find mercy Posts: 8,963	It is one of the biggest days in the Mexican Catholic Church (after Holy Week and Christmas), commemerating the sighting of the Virgin Mary by an Indian. It is not an official holiday, however.

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Heather Staff Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Playa del Carmen Posts: 8,902	I wondered what all that noise was about last night...had to come in and ask Sonia. Firecrackers, honking, shouting...I had no idea.

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Sonia shortest staff member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Monterrey, Mexico Posts: 264	Ok so Juan Diego (the indian who saw the virgin) was walking around, minding his own business when BUM! There's the Virgen, right in front of him! So she tells him in his own language, nahuatl, that she wants a temple, built right there, and asks him to go to the bishop to get it done. The bishop (of course) didn't believe a word and asked him for proof. A few days after the Virgen asked Juan Diego to pick up some flowers before he went to see the bishop again. He found some beautiful roses never before seen in that area, he took them to the bishop, holding them in his clothes, and when he showed him the roses, he saw this: I think he's a saint now, or is in the process of becoming one.

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Seakony añejo Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: no longer in Mesquite with nothing to do Posts: 10,146	Dallas's big cathedral was renamed in her honor and there is a huge tapestry of her hanging over the main altar. Visions Blessed Mother has been known to show up all over the world, the most famous being Lourdes, Fatima, and Medjugorde to name a few.

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mofi añejo Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Now: Calgary, AB Before: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 2,059	You can find miniture statues of her everywhere. I don't recall being in a taxi that didn't have one.

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mofi añejo Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Now: Calgary, AB Before: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 2,059	haha. hillarious....theres also posters of her all over the place to, and candles with her picture on them....and the list goes on and on and on.

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caramba añejo Join Date: May 2002 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,446	Nice to hear the stories; we'd never quite gotten the "jist" of the holiday, but every time we've been in Mexico this time of year, which has been quite a few times, we always see pilgrims running down the highway with torches, processions with floats depicting the Virgin appearing to Juan Diego, pilgrims on their hands and knees making their way to the cathedral (Puerto Vallarta), etc., etc. in the days proceeding the holiday. Not sure if the actual day is December 10th, 11th or 12th but it is definitely one of those days. On Sunday just after dusk, returning from Yal-ku/Akumal there was one little procession just to the south of Playa heading into town consisting of a police car with lights flashing and siren howling, a truck just ahead with torch runner out in front, with fireworks shooting off the top of the truck. I guess there was a big parade in town a while later but we missed it.

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