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Old 01-04-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Has anybody else been following this story? Pretty messed up is what it seems to me...

http://www.dailymail.com/news/News/2006010412/
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It's so sad. So terribly terribly sad.
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Our local paper also reported the numbers wrong...12 alive 1 dead - guess they should have proofed it first. Very sad news!! can't imagine...
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This reminds me somewhat of when a plane crash occured in the 80's, I don't remember all the details, but basically what ended up happening was that families were not able to be notified before they arrived to the airport to pick up their loved ones. I get chills just thinking of it. So they show up to pick them up, only to find out they were dead. How horrifying.

I heard on the radio this morning. How terribly sad.
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Journalism is currently a joke. They eavesdrop with their parabolic mikes and report anything without even one or two reliable sources. Maybe journalism has always been a joke. How many years have the big 3 been feeding us news that is about as reliable as Rathers national guard memo?
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Journalism is currently a joke. They eavesdrop with their parabolic mikes and report anything without even one or two reliable sources. Maybe journalism has always been a joke. How many years have the big 3 been feeding us news that is about as reliable as Rathers national guard memo?
seemed like it was more of a miscommunication between a rescue worker down in the mine and family members gathered at a church.... I think this is what was said ..."we're bringing 12 out" .... it was assumed by the families that 12 were alive and 1 was lost and that is what was relayed to the media outside the church.

My godson is down in a salt mine outside of Wichita Ks as we type... I told him two months ago, if that's the only job you can find, move

but, I do love Ms. Mapes "It's the public's job to prove it isn't true"..... what a business philosophy !!! I'm suprised Fox hasn't jumped on that wagon with a "Hillary is a transvestite" report
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I have been following this from the beginning but made no comment on account of having been acused of insensitivity elsewhere.


It deeply saddens me that these miners, hard workers and family men that they seem to have been couldn't find refuge from the poisoned atmosphere that was to cause their demise.
At the same time - and putting things in perspective - they are a reminder of the thousands of other - unsung - miners who die every year from appalling working conditions in countries such as China.

No one should let prejudice blind them and exclusively blame the media for wrong reporting; all news organizations have deadlines and wrong reporting may have been caused by the inability to "stop the presses" after the mining company corrected their incorrect communiqué (which, it is beginning to transpire, they knew for a while to be erroneous).

Anyway, the media didn't kill anyone, lack of oxygen did.
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I have been following this from the beginning but made no comment on account of having been acused of insensitivity elsewhere.


It deeply saddens me that these miners, hard workers and family men that they seem to have been couldn't find refuge from the poisoned atmosphere that was to cause their demise.
At the same time - and putting things in perspective - they are a reminder of the thousands of other - unsung - miners who die every year from appalling working conditions in countries such as China.

No one should let prejudice blind them and exclusively blame the media for wrong reporting; all news organizations have deadlines and wrong reporting may have been caused by the inability to "stop the presses" after the mining company corrected their incorrect communiqué (which, it is beginning to transpire, they knew for a while to be erroneous).

Anyway, the media didn't kill anyone, lack of oxygen did.
A media apologist, go figure. Blinded by prejudice, go figure. Does the word hyperbole mean anything to you?
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This shows the power of the media - to really screw up something!!!
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At the same time - and putting things in perspective - they are a reminder of the thousands of other - unsung - miners who die every year from appalling working conditions in countries such as China.
The "official" Chinese Governments number of 2004 mining deaths was 6000.
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A media apologist, go figure. Blinded by prejudice, go figure. Does the word hyperbole mean anything to you?

It does.

"Hearing both sides before rushing to conclusions" does too.

Knowing how newspapers are put together also helps.

You could start here.
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It does.

"Hearing both sides before rushing to conclusions" does too.

Knowing how newspapers are put together also helps.

You could start here.
No thanks. Just making excuses for poor journalism. Journalists have a way of being thin-skinned about their shortcomings while jumping all over everyone elses. If you want to learn more click here. Just kidding, I am not smart enough to lecture others.
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Just kidding, I am not smart enough to lecture others.
There's no need to do yourself down, it's more a question of being open minded than smart; you can learn to be open minded, no one is totally bereft of virtue.

However, if in your modesty you consider yourself unworthy of lecturing others - as you put it - why do you allow yourself to accuse a whole industry without knowing the full facts first?
Why do you go from reading the governor and mine officials may have been the ones who put out incorrect information, to blaming the media who simply reported what they thought were reliable facts - coming from where they did?

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I truly yearn to be open-minded like you.
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