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Old 06-02-2006   #61 (permalink)
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"...the furnace"?
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Old 06-02-2006   #62 (permalink)
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"...the furnace"?
Is that what it means en espaniol????
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Is that what it means en espaniol????
I'm rather limited vocabulary-wise....
Was kinduv wondering that myself.
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I'm rather limited vocabulary-wise....
Was kinduv wondering that myself.
Did you check Bablefish??
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.....tried it.
Got nada.
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.....tried it.
Got nada.
Perhaps you forgot the accent on the second "o"? I typed "fogón" into babelfish and got "furnace" as a translation. I also typed "fogon" without an accent into Google's translation tool and got "furnace" as a translation.

Checking manually in my old "Appleton's Revised Cuyas Spanish Dictionary" provided the following definition for ""fogón":
m. hearth, fireside; cooking place, cooking stove, kitchen range; touchhole of a gun; (naut.) caboose, cuddy; firebox (of a boiler, locomotive, etc.); (Am.) fire.
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Perhaps you forgot the accent on the second "o"? I typed "fogón" into babelfish and got "furnace" as a translation. I also typed "fogon" without an accent into Google's translation tool and got "furnace" as a translation.
Yeah....I was thinkin "stove"
I tried to go to babLE....instead of babEL...
It was my bad.
Should have known it babEL - you know...."tower of" and all that jazz....
Now I know....
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Perhaps you forgot the accent on the second "o"? I typed "fogón" into babelfish and got "furnace" as a translation. I also typed "fogon" without an accent into Google's translation tool and got "furnace" as a translation.


Checking manually in my old "Appleton's Revised Cuyas Spanish Dictionary" provided the following definition for ""fogón":[indent]m. hearth, fireside; cooking place, cooking stove, kitchen range; touchhole of a gun; (naut.) caboose, cuddy; firebox (of a boiler, locomotive, etc.); (Am.) fire.
So it's the local version of the Fireside Inn. Every town of any size has something similar in name. My question is has James violated the rules of the thread on changarros by mentioning the bourgeous(sp?) carboncitos on 5th. Does it qualify as a changarro with tacos that are 40% more each and pay extra for the sauces? Perhaps a new thead should be started, Chanbougarros?

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My question is has James violated the rules of the thread on changarros by mentioning the bourgeous(sp?) carboncitos on 5th. Does it qualify as a changarro with tacos that are 40% more each and pay extra for the sauces? Perhaps a new thead should be started, Chanbougarros?

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Why has no one mentioned El Pastoricito? (sp?) Its right across the street from the north location of El Fogon, and I think they have much better tacos al pastor.

Heather - if you're still reading this thread - you know the place I'm talking about, right? It must be near your house. Do you dig the food there, or "not so much?"
I live across the street from Heather and have eaten at El Fogon and El Pastorcito many times. So, maybe I'm qualified to answer this while Heather's away for a few days.

El Pastorcito is great. My husband swears that the pastor there is better than at El Fogon. I think it depends on the night, but he's probably right. However, overall, I prefer Fogon. Imo, the frijoles charros and several other items are better at Fogon. Granted the first time I had frijoles charros was at Pastorcito, and it was good enough to get me hooked. So, when we are ordering only pastor, we go to Pastorcito. When we're getting other things, we go to Fogon.

I think that the quality of the pastor varies depending on what time of day you arrive and how many people are ordering it. If you get there too early, the meat hasn't had a chance to soak up all the juices that are dripping down. And if noone's eating it, the meat tends to get a bit too charred. I can tell if I'm going to like it just by looking at the spit. But that takes practice ... lots and lots of practice. Oh, it's tough living a few blocks away from great pastor.

I like Carboncito's, but I prefer Fogon and Pastorcito. I just think that Carboncito's pastor is a bit bland. However, I do agree that the meat seems to be of higher quality. The first pastor I ever ate tasted just like Carboncito's (except it was in a total dive in Veracruz and cost less than 40 cents a taco), and I thought it was the best thing ever. When I first tried the pastor at Fogon and Pastorcito, I was a little disappointed. I guess they grew on me, though. Sometimes, I think you fall in love with something and then can't accept it any other way.

My husband can't stand Carboncito's. We took our 2 foodie friends from Chicago there, and the ONLY thing they liked was the pumpkin seed sauce. They had been to Pastorcito before Carboncito's. Btw, to give you an idea of what our foodie friends like here, they love Pastorcito, Fogon, HC de Monterrey, Babe's & Il Pescatore (have been meaning to post on how great this place is). We have also taken a butcher's daughter and a picky guy who will spend hours picking every minute speck of fat off of his meat before eating, and they both loved the pastor and commented on the high quality of meat.

Can you tell that I think about food way too much? Hope this helps. It'll be interesting to get Heather's opinion on Pastorcito next week.
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I don't consider El Fogon to be a changarro/hole in the wall anyway either. Both places would be at the low end of a price scale, no big difference really, one has an ocean view, plasma screens, and the coldest freakin' beer in town, served in frozen mugs. One has hardwood tables and chairs, the other plastic seats and tables. It's a different experience, for sure.

I don't think Alejandro should have stolen his grandma's salsa recipes, but I'm glad he did. They are the best in town, IMHO. You don't pay extra for salsa, they'll give you your choice included. If you want a plate of salsa boats with chips, you'll pay a couple bucks for that.

One battles it's competition for the lowest priced al pastor in town, the other battles all comers for the best quality al pastor in town.

On Pastorcitos, I know the family that runs this place. I usually go there instead of El Fogon when I'm eating in my neighborhood. We had our get-together/greet/meet dinner before our wedding there.
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Carboncitos blows Fogon away so hard on all counts there isn't even any competition. .
James...James... James. Son, how many times have I warned you about sitting that close to the monitor? It does bad things to your brain. The only known cure? Meet me for a beer and the Especial Nortena at El Fogon, the best grill in Playa!

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Carboncitos ....ocean view ....... if you had a 4 metre pole with a mirror on it maybe .
This is the old " Peter Pan " pizza place right ?
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Carboncitos ....ocean view ....... if you had a 4 metre pole with a mirror on it maybe .
This is the old " Peter Pan " pizza place right ?
I still think the tacos al pastor was good there!!! And they didn't charge us for the salsas....don't know about the ocean view, nice breeze if you're sitting outside though.
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Libby, I'm with you and James on this one...

I'll be taking some "newbie" friends and family to El Pastorcito next week. We'll see what they think!
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