sudden movement re destruction of the new pier - Page 11

absoluteAL · 07-07-2009

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Originally Posted by ryberg

My impression was that federal courts said that it had precisely been built illegally, in part due to the compromised EIS. Perhaps it's just a question of terminology. But I would agree in that I don't think it will be taken down, no.

Steve

The Ultramar ferry was docked there yesterday morning and I was told a few weeks ago that they were going to built a permanent ticket booth just off one side of the pier

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**ryberg** · 07-07-2009

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Originally Posted by absoluteAL

The Ultramar ferry was docked there yesterday morning and I was told a few weeks ago that they were going to built a permanent ticket booth just off one side of the pier

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Oh, I know it's in operation. I was just responding to the quoted comment as to it having been built, or not having been built, illegally.

Steve

Karen in NYC · 07-08-2009

That's the pier by Royal PDC - right?

This is so sad that they are using the pier again. I used to enjoy sitting in Pelicano's (RPDC) for breakfast or lunch......Maybe not so much any more.

Jimontheriver · 07-08-2009

I'm sure the guests at the Royal and Real Hotels will enjoy the exaust fumes from the ferrys.

UnoCerveza · 07-08-2009

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Originally Posted by Jimontheriver

I'm sure the guests at the Royal and Real Hotels will enjoy the exaust fumes from the ferrys.

I'll let you know after I return from the GPR at the end of Nov

Sue · 07-08-2009

We just got back after a week there and noticed one of the ferries would occasionally park at that pier but not use it to unload any people. Only once or twice did people get off on that pier, and they were so shepherded by guides that we assumed they must have been from a cruise ship.

**Shammy** · 07-10-2009

I was at the Royal in June and saw them building a platform for what I assume will be a ticket booth. There was NO issues at all with fumes, no smell and the ferries didn't stay put for very long at all. Don't really like that the pier is in use but I didn't find them to be a distraction or eyesore at all. Just look the other way - plenty of nice stuff to see!

Mark05 · 07-10-2009

They have installed stairs so beach walkers like us won't have to detour back across Constituents and walk on the hot bricks

I still don't like it

and think its an eyesore

There was an Ultramar ferry there and I believe they were taking cruise ship passengers on tours on the mainland

ProfessorPibil · 07-24-2009

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Originally Posted by Mark05

They have installed stairs so beach walkers like us won't have to detour back across Constituents and walk on the hot bricks

I still don't like it

and think its an eyesore

There was an Ultramar ferry there and I believe they were taking cruise ship passengers on tours on the mainland

If it's really illegal, seems like going there some night with a few jackhammers should be fine...

teelovesbee · 07-31-2009

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Originally Posted by Phil V

From mayanholiday.blogspot dotcom Thursday, June 08, 2006

Ultramar Dock Shut Down

PLAYA DEL CARMEN, June 8 -- After nearly five years of back-and-forth, the Ultramar pier and dock located at the end of Constituyentes Avenue in Playa del Carmen has finally been closed down. The pier was built by Aquaworld in 2001 and was envisioned as a recreational pier and secondary ferry dock to back up the main installation at the town square, in front of the Playacar Palace.

The 200-yard dock was built on top of a coral reef and never had a complete environmental impact study done when the permits were granted. In fact, it is an on-going debate whether it ever had the correct permits in the first place. For the past several years, it has been used sporadically by the Ultramar ferry and by cruiseship tender boats, but for most of its existence, it has been roped off and guarded by private sercurity officials.

With this announcement, all operations have ceased, causing environmental groups to celebrate. Demolition could be the next step in the process, which will restore the beach view at the Gran Porto Real and Royal Porto Real resorts located on either side of the pier.

WooHooo!!! My gosh I HOPE they get rid of it!!!!!

Babaloo · 07-31-2009

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Originally Posted by teelovesbee

WooHooo!!! My gosh I HOPE they get rid of it!!!!!

Ummm....that was three years ago

teelovesbee · 07-31-2009

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Originally Posted by Babaloo

Ummm....that was three years ago

Oh.

LOL

PS- See you in 4 weeks Rick and Lenny!

scubakevin · 08-01-2009

lol yeah I was like I sit here in front of the beach everyday and see the ferry crossing more and more.

The thing is for sure it is "prearranged" transportation of ferry passengers for their activities. They arrive to the dock and are moved from there to somewhere else.

Without a doubt if that is going to be the concept here it is not of any value to our businesses in Playa del Carmen, just to them.

beeandtee · 08-03-2009

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Originally Posted by teelovesbee

Oh.

LOL

PS- See you in 4 weeks Rick and Lenny!

Way to stay on top of things Sweetee!!

flowerBill · 09-11-2009

I think that pier screwed up water circulation and sand deposition in the area between the two piers, real shame. Seems like during periods with less wave action and current that more junk is trapped in that area in the water near shore. Out a little ways the water is fine and clear but sometimes the first few feet along the shore is gross. Could be the propwash from the off shore cruise ships as well, or a combination I suppose, but it does seem to me like the water quality deteriorated after that pier went in.

07-10-2009	#158 (permalink)
Mark05 life=playa Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ottumwa, Iowa Posts: 772	They have installed stairs so beach walkers like us won't have to detour back across Constituents and walk on the hot bricks I still don't like itand think its an eyesore There was an Ultramar ferry there and I believe they were taking cruise ship passengers on tours on the mainland

07-08-2009	#153 (permalink)
Karen in NYC beachaholic Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 312	That's the pier by Royal PDC - right? This is so sad that they are using the pier again. I used to enjoy sitting in Pelicano's (RPDC) for breakfast or lunch......Maybe not so much any more.

07-08-2009	#154 (permalink)
Jimontheriver añejo Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Illinois on the Mississippi Posts: 2,121	I'm sure the guests at the Royal and Real Hotels will enjoy the exaust fumes from the ferrys.

07-08-2009	#156 (permalink)
Sue añejo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Playa del Carmen Posts: 16,247	We just got back after a week there and noticed one of the ferries would occasionally park at that pier but not use it to unload any people. Only once or twice did people get off on that pier, and they were so shepherded by guides that we assumed they must have been from a cruise ship.

07-10-2009	#157 (permalink)
Shammy Travel Insurance Tester Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Joisey Shore Posts: 17,486	I was at the Royal in June and saw them building a platform for what I assume will be a ticket booth. There was NO issues at all with fumes, no smell and the ferries didn't stay put for very long at all. Don't really like that the pier is in use but I didn't find them to be a distraction or eyesore at all. Just look the other way - plenty of nice stuff to see!

08-01-2009	#163 (permalink)
scubakevin way into it Join Date: May 2004 Location: Cancun Posts: 103	lol yeah I was like I sit here in front of the beach everyday and see the ferry crossing more and more. The thing is for sure it is "prearranged" transportation of ferry passengers for their activities. They arrive to the dock and are moved from there to somewhere else. Without a doubt if that is going to be the concept here it is not of any value to our businesses in Playa del Carmen, just to them.

09-11-2009	#165 (permalink)
flowerBill beachaholic Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Greenbelt, Maryland Posts: 435	I think that pier screwed up water circulation and sand deposition in the area between the two piers, real shame. Seems like during periods with less wave action and current that more junk is trapped in that area in the water near shore. Out a little ways the water is fine and clear but sometimes the first few feet along the shore is gross. Could be the propwash from the off shore cruise ships as well, or a combination I suppose, but it does seem to me like the water quality deteriorated after that pier went in.

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