sudden movement re destruction of the new pier - Page 2

**denisea** · 05-13-2006

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Originally Posted by Beachnutt719

That thing definitely screws up the landscape. Would be glad to see it go. My question is will the destruction of it so more damage than just leaving it there?

Had the same thought myself... hope the removal is environmentally friendly and does not cause more damage than already done.

playadude · 05-13-2006

There is no reason why the two ferry companies can't share the existing pier. Why in the world would a small village like Playa want two piers?

Makes no sense for the town

Also, there are no concrete blocks south of the pier. It's a massive 10 foot in diameter concrete structure coming from the beach and jutting into the surf. (Like a very long concrete tube). It is totally designed to hold sand in front of the REAL property and "screw over" the rest of Playa's beach.

Unbelievable gall!

The officials should force Ultramar/REAL to pay for the costs of rebuilding Playa's beach. It is obvious that they have changed the towns beach. (They should also remove the pier and "tube")

**ryberg** · 05-13-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by playadude

There is no reason why the two ferry companies can't share the existing pier. Why in the world would a small village like Playa want two piers?

Makes no sense for the town

This was not a public works project. I think the main question for the owners/investors was whether it made sense in terms of whether they would profit from it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by playadude

Also, there are no concrete blocks south of the pier. It's a massive 10 foot in diameter concrete structure coming from the beach and jutting into the surf. (Like a very long concrete tube). It is totally designed to hold sand in front of the REAL property and "screw over" the rest of Playa's beach.

Unbelievable gall!

The officials should force Ultramar/REAL to pay for the costs of rebuilding Playa's beach. It is obvious that they have changed the towns beach. (They should also remove the pier and "tube")

I won't argue! Yes that's the thing I was perhaps not so clearly trying to refer to.

Steve

JEZ · 05-13-2006

This is some of the best news I have heard all year.

Cant wait until June!!!

summer05 · 05-13-2006

Wonderful news!! Hope it's done by our July visit!

StephenB · 05-14-2006

I'll believe it when I see it. Here's hoping!

Jacko · 05-15-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by playadude

There is no reason why the two ferry companies can't share the existing pier. Why in the world would a small village like Playa want two piers?

Makes no sense for the town

Also, there are no concrete blocks south of the pier. It's a massive 10 foot in diameter concrete structure coming from the beach and jutting into the surf. (Like a very long concrete tube). It is totally designed to hold sand in front of the REAL property and "screw over" the rest of Playa's beach.

Unbelievable gall!

The officials should force Ultramar/REAL to pay for the costs of rebuilding Playa's beach. It is obvious that they have changed the towns beach. (They should also remove the pier and "tube")

I don't think it is working for them! I watched everyday as 4 or so poor Mexican workers manually hauled the massive amounts of seaweed out of the shallows in front of GPR's rapidly eroding beach on the bay side. They really have a problem there that seems to be bigger than the weekly changes in beach sand levels!

As for the pier....perhaps they should let them keep it so they can bear the fruits of their ill-concieved plans...the obtrusive, noisy, smelly lines of tour buses in front of the their new Luxury abhorrence (JMHO folks), the RPR, may eventually cause them to change any desires they ever had for the pier.

Or perhaps they should allow the new pier to stay and trade the city by paying for the destruction of the old pier, thus "cleaning up" that end of
"historic" Playa? I don't think the "mall" owners on that end would be very happy with that plan.

Seems hard to know which change is for the better.....but change it will...

(still, Playa's the best vacation spot around!

)

playadude · 05-15-2006

Firstly,
I don't want to scare anybody from coming to Playa.
It still is the best place to visit. It is my hope that this forum helps highlight the BS that sometimes goes on in Mexico.
Playa is a Jewel and it seems to me that the officials are trying to treat as such.

**james** · 05-16-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beachnutt719

That thing definitely screws up the landscape. Would be glad to see it go. My question is will the destruction of it do more damage than just leaving it there?

now that's the real question

**james** · 05-16-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by playadude

Firstly,
I don't want to scare anybody from coming to Playa.
It still is the best place to visit. It is my hope that this forum helps highlight the BS that sometimes goes on in Mexico.
Playa is a Jewel and it seems to me that the officials are trying to treat as such.

(or anywhere)

We were there when Chencho arrived so long ago!

Falulio · 05-16-2006

It's just a matter of time - this pier disappearing is wishful thinking - too much money to be made and the powers that be don't have the political might to have it stopped. From what my business associates in Cancun tell me - the pier is on a steamroller and the press is trying to push buttons - don't always believe what you read. Playa will become another Cozumel!

**ryberg** · 05-16-2006

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Originally Posted by Falulio

It's just a matter of time - this pier disappearing is wishful thinking - too much money to be made and the powers that be don't have the political might to have it stopped. From what my business associates in Cancun tell me - the pier is on a steamroller and the press is trying to push buttons - don't always believe what you read.

Yes, for example:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falulio

Playa will become another Cozumel!

I would normally be in agreement with -- in fact was previously in agreement with, if you see the intiailly referenced links -- what you say at the beginning. However I now see 2 factors as crucial and cause for hope:

1. the downright dizzying 180 on the part of the mayor, from "the pier stays" some time ago all the way to "destruction of the pier won't hurt investments" now (see second link in and content of my original post, respectively), and

2. the fact that the owners of the pier are sufficiently worried as to have gone after an injunction to stop the plan for destruction in the first place, also quite a turnaround from their previous "proceed with impunity" approach.

But yes only time will tell what will really happen.

Steve

beer_dude · 05-17-2006

We need to change the title of this thread! Every time I see "Sudden Movement" I think to myself "Followed by paniced run for bathroom".

**ryberg** · 05-17-2006

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Originally Posted by beer_dude

We need to change the title of this thread! Every time I see "Sudden Movement" I think to myself "Followed by paniced run for bathroom".

Dude -- Beer Dude -- the accompanying album cover??? Come on, you're crapping out on us (heh heh)...

Steve

beer_dude · 05-18-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryberg

Dude -- Beer Dude -- the accompanying album cover??? Come on, you're crapping out on us (heh heh)...

Steve

Crapping out! Here you go!

05-13-2006	#17 (permalink)
playadude lost on fifth Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 16	Good for Playa! There is no reason why the two ferry companies can't share the existing pier. Why in the world would a small village like Playa want two piers? Makes no sense for the town Also, there are no concrete blocks south of the pier. It's a massive 10 foot in diameter concrete structure coming from the beach and jutting into the surf. (Like a very long concrete tube). It is totally designed to hold sand in front of the REAL property and "screw over" the rest of Playa's beach. Unbelievable gall! The officials should force Ultramar/REAL to pay for the costs of rebuilding Playa's beach. It is obvious that they have changed the towns beach. (They should also remove the pier and "tube") Last edited by playadude : 05-13-2006 at 08:51 AM.

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playadude lost on fifth Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 16	Totally Agree Firstly, I don't want to scare anybody from coming to Playa. It still is the best place to visit. It is my hope that this forum helps highlight the BS that sometimes goes on in Mexico. Playa is a Jewel and it seems to me that the officials are trying to treat as such.

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05-13-2006	#19 (permalink)
JEZ añejo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: At the Beer Bucket, Playa Del Carmen Posts: 3,440	This is some of the best news I have heard all year. Cant wait until June!!!

05-13-2006	#20 (permalink)
summer05 beachaholic Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 289	Wonderful news!! Hope it's done by our July visit!

05-14-2006	#21 (permalink)
StephenB añejo Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York State Posts: 2,102	I'll believe it when I see it. Here's hoping!

05-16-2006	#26 (permalink)
Falulio lost on fifth Join Date: May 2005 Location: canada Posts: 22	It's just a matter of time - this pier disappearing is wishful thinking - too much money to be made and the powers that be don't have the political might to have it stopped. From what my business associates in Cancun tell me - the pier is on a steamroller and the press is trying to push buttons - don't always believe what you read. Playa will become another Cozumel!

05-17-2006	#28 (permalink)
beer_dude reposado Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,202	We need to change the title of this thread! Every time I see "Sudden Movement" I think to myself "Followed by paniced run for bathroom".

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