sudden movement re destruction of the new pier - Page 4

**ryberg** · 06-08-2006

Actually after saying that, I did in fact see a cruise ship yesterday. However you may like this: it was well off in the distance, not parked front and center, and it was headed steadily south, as if to Calica. And indeed later in the afternoon we saw a number of people from the ship walking around town and on the beach or at our restaurant.

That is to say, it was just like the old days.

Steve

monte · 06-08-2006

thats great news Steve, thanks for keeping us updated

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryberg

Actually after saying that, I did in fact see a cruise ship yesterday. However you may like this: it was well off in the distance, not parked front and center, and it was headed steadily south, as if to Calica. And indeed later in the afternoon we saw a number of people from the ship walking around town and on the beach or at our restaurant.

That is to say, it was just like the old days.

Steve

JudyBluEyes · 06-08-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryberg

Actually after saying that, I did in fact see a cruise ship yesterday. However you may like this: it was well off in the distance, not parked front and center, and it was headed steadily south, as if to Calica. And indeed later in the afternoon we saw a number of people from the ship walking around town and on the beach or at our restaurant.

That is to say, it was just like the old days.

Steve

That is so cool. When we stayed in May there was a ship so close you could hear their announcements and smell their diesel fuel..

TnJ · 06-08-2006

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Originally Posted by JudyBluEyes

That is so cool. When we stayed in May there was a ship so close you could hear their announcements and smell their diesel fuel..

hmm, glad we didn't stick around 4 this ..

enjoyed chattin with you n baked across the balcony

@ pm in May!

Ginger · 06-09-2006

Interesting news.

I was speaking with a guy up here about Playa and our love of the area, he had been a few times himself. He is some kind of environmental engineer..not exactly sure what that is, but it sounds important.

He actually talked about that tube in front of the Porto Real and how people wouldn't/don't realize the major impact that thing has on the rest of the beach in the area, and other various environmental concerns arising from that tube (and others for the area in general).

You just can't tamper with mother nature like that, eh?

playadude · 06-09-2006

I know!
That thing is killing the beach to the south! Can't believe it's there.

Phil V · 06-15-2006

From mayanholiday.blogspot dotcom Thursday, June 08, 2006

Ultramar Dock Shut Down

PLAYA DEL CARMEN, June 8 -- After nearly five years of back-and-forth, the Ultramar pier and dock located at the end of Constituyentes Avenue in Playa del Carmen has finally been closed down. The pier was built by Aquaworld in 2001 and was envisioned as a recreational pier and secondary ferry dock to back up the main installation at the town square, in front of the Playacar Palace.

The 200-yard dock was built on top of a coral reef and never had a complete environmental impact study done when the permits were granted. In fact, it is an on-going debate whether it ever had the correct permits in the first place. For the past several years, it has been used sporadically by the Ultramar ferry and by cruiseship tender boats, but for most of its existence, it has been roped off and guarded by private sercurity officials.

With this announcement, all operations have ceased, causing environmental groups to celebrate. Demolition could be the next step in the process, which will restore the beach view at the Gran Porto Real and Royal Porto Real resorts located on either side of the pier.

**ryberg** · 06-15-2006

Thanks for that!

My favorite bit:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil V

From mayanholiday.blogspot dotcom Thursday, June 08, 2006

Ultramar Dock Shut Down

PLAYA DEL CARMEN, June 8 -- After nearly five years of back-and-forth, the Ultramar pier and dock located at the end of Constituyentes Avenue in Playa del Carmen has finally been closed down . . . Demolition could be the next step in the process, which will restore the beach view at the Gran Porto Real and Royal Porto Real resorts located on either side of the pier.

Yeah -- as if they were just hapless victims in this whole affair, and as if nobody else suffered!

Steve

xqqzme · 06-15-2006

Wonder what will happen to the guy who dressed in his Mayan garb to meet the cruise tenders. Out of a job I guess...

Mark05 · 06-16-2006

We were in Playa last week. We went off fifth avenue down Constituentes to the pier. A group of reporters were interviewing one man apparently about the demise of the structure. On the side of the pier there was a large sticker, I am guessing it was an order to stop using the pier or maybe a removal order.A truck was on the end of the pier and looked like some workers were starting to demolish it. By the way the Mayan warrior is on 5th avenue at a restaurant!

itsmysecondtime · 06-17-2006

It's encouraging to read that, at least in the surface, environmental issues such as caused by the pier in question have not been relegated to the periphery as most issues of this nature tend to in Mexico. Hoping for some updates. Seriously impressed by the level of interest that this issue has generated in this forum. A reassuring sign.

Cosmo · 06-17-2006

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Originally Posted by itsmysecondtime

It's encouraging to read that, at least in the surface, environmental issues such as caused by the pier in question have not been relegated to the periphery as most issues of this nature tend to in Mexico. Hoping for some updates. Seriously impressed by the level of interest that this issue has generated in this forum. A reassuring sign.

So how many times have you been to Playa? Have you seen the pier? Just wondering...

Softy57 · 06-19-2006

This is a great step foreward, no one will miss that eyesore,and the beach south of it will hopefully benefit from the piers destruction. Thanks so much Steve for keeping us all informed, I appreciate it very much.

Jacko · 06-19-2006

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Originally Posted by Cosmo

So how many times have you been to Playa? Have you seen the pier? Just wondering...

Doesn't "itsmysecondtime's" avatar speak to that?

itsmysecondtime · 06-20-2006

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Originally Posted by Jacko

Doesn't "itsmysecondtime's" avatar speak to that?

Hi Jacko,
I wouldn't bother. Believe me I've tried, repeatedly, in hopes of alleviating whatever ails the fellow, but to no avail. Don't know if it's neurosis;however, after having this pattern of obsessive cinicism following me through various threads I'm starting to wonder as to the probability of something more dramatic, along the line of psychosis.

As I've tried to stay away from a few threads such as the world cup one, the term harrassing comes to mind occasionsally, but then I ponder such issues as detachment disorder, emotional deficit, happy hour every hour, and I conclude that better live and let live.

I try to ignore it and who knows, one day it will subside. Eventually he may transfer whatever attachement issues he may harbor to some other fellow around here.

btw, I've noticed one of your posts concerning curiosity and possible confusion as to some of my comments on the US v Italy game, so I'll give you a brief reply soon. Take care.

06-09-2006	#51 (permalink)
playadude lost on fifth Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 16	Sand Dike I know! That thing is killing the beach to the south! Can't believe it's there.

06-19-2006	#58 (permalink)
Softy57 añejo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Massachusetts,U.S.A. Posts: 1,729	Great News This is a great step foreward, no one will miss that eyesore,and the beach south of it will hopefully benefit from the piers destruction. Thanks so much Steve for keeping us all informed, I appreciate it very much.

06-08-2006	#46 (permalink)
ryberg playa maya guy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: real America (reality-based community) Posts: 27,949	Actually after saying that, I did in fact see a cruise ship yesterday. However you may like this: it was well off in the distance, not parked front and center, and it was headed steadily south, as if to Calica. And indeed later in the afternoon we saw a number of people from the ship walking around town and on the beach or at our restaurant. That is to say, it was just like the old days. Steve

06-09-2006	#50 (permalink)
Ginger añejo Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 11,229	Interesting news. I was speaking with a guy up here about Playa and our love of the area, he had been a few times himself. He is some kind of environmental engineer..not exactly sure what that is, but it sounds important. He actually talked about that tube in front of the Porto Real and how people wouldn't/don't realize the major impact that thing has on the rest of the beach in the area, and other various environmental concerns arising from that tube (and others for the area in general). You just can't tamper with mother nature like that, eh?

06-15-2006	#52 (permalink)
Phil V way into it Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 180	From mayanholiday.blogspot dotcom Thursday, June 08, 2006 Ultramar Dock Shut Down PLAYA DEL CARMEN, June 8 -- After nearly five years of back-and-forth, the Ultramar pier and dock located at the end of Constituyentes Avenue in Playa del Carmen has finally been closed down. The pier was built by Aquaworld in 2001 and was envisioned as a recreational pier and secondary ferry dock to back up the main installation at the town square, in front of the Playacar Palace. The 200-yard dock was built on top of a coral reef and never had a complete environmental impact study done when the permits were granted. In fact, it is an on-going debate whether it ever had the correct permits in the first place. For the past several years, it has been used sporadically by the Ultramar ferry and by cruiseship tender boats, but for most of its existence, it has been roped off and guarded by private sercurity officials. With this announcement, all operations have ceased, causing environmental groups to celebrate. Demolition could be the next step in the process, which will restore the beach view at the Gran Porto Real and Royal Porto Real resorts located on either side of the pier.

06-15-2006	#54 (permalink)
xqqzme añejo Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 5,105	Wonder what will happen to the guy who dressed in his Mayan garb to meet the cruise tenders. Out of a job I guess...

06-16-2006	#55 (permalink)
Mark05 life=playa Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ottumwa, Iowa Posts: 772	We were in Playa last week. We went off fifth avenue down Constituentes to the pier. A group of reporters were interviewing one man apparently about the demise of the structure. On the side of the pier there was a large sticker, I am guessing it was an order to stop using the pier or maybe a removal order.A truck was on the end of the pier and looked like some workers were starting to demolish it. By the way the Mayan warrior is on 5th avenue at a restaurant!

06-17-2006	#56 (permalink)
itsmysecondtime añejo Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: West of the Boston Tea Party Posts: 4,047	It's encouraging to read that, at least in the surface, environmental issues such as caused by the pier in question have not been relegated to the periphery as most issues of this nature tend to in Mexico. Hoping for some updates. Seriously impressed by the level of interest that this issue has generated in this forum. A reassuring sign.

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