Dixie Chicks

[TexasUSA]

They are playing the victim now. The main singer stated that they are getting death threats...that is too bad, but that happens all the time to Bush, Hannity, Limbaugh and tons of others. They also blame Bush for their current lack of success... They are the ones that decided to take this stand and make it an issue. Do they really think that Bush personally called up all of these Americans and told them not to attend their concerts or buy their CD's. Freedom of speech works both ways, they have a right to say what they want and the american people have a right to either buy or not buy their crap....

[cuffedlinks]

If the like the sound of the Dixie Chicks...
Check out the latest release by: The Wreckers (Michelle Branch of Carlos Santana "Game of Love") and Jessica Harp. Their new tune has many similarities to the DC music - in fact many people mistake this new song for the DC girls....

[PlayadelSoul]

Originally Posted by Thor Henning

You are not allowed to encourage to break the law.

There is nothing illegal about being a racist or for calling for the reinstatement of slavery.

[PlayadelSoul]

Originally Posted by Kellyk

First of all, I'm not supporting the Dixie Chicks...don't like the music, never have..nover bought a CD never gave 'em a dime and probably never will . I just think in an age when actors, radio hosts and politicians are escaping to 'rehab' to cover their crimes /mistakes/words(and try to play the ultimate victim) and get sympathy for it, it's a bit refreshing for someone to take the heat and stand by their words (and benign words compared to the others) instead of caving to the masses. If it was a rap group, a rock group, or George Clooney this wouldn't have gone as far as it did.

I am all for their right to express their opinion. More power to them. I am not OK with their whining about the backlash. If they had conviction, they would not have apologized and stood by their words. George Clooney, who I disagree with on a lot of issues, at least has the conviction to pay whatever price he has to. He is my favorite actor, and I admire him. The Dixie Chicks first waffled, and are now trying to claim that they were unfairly treated. They are making a second career as professional victims. Probably better, as their 15 minutes were almost up, anyway.

[bufante]

Greenday has made a living ripping on Bush...

I don't have a problem with an entertainer making a statement, taking a stand, but they need to realize that with there ability to speak to a larger audience they have a lot more to lose. Sorry Dixies....but oh well.

[RonH]

Originally Posted by kirbyfan

I saw Toby Keith about 9 months ago and he spoke out a little on the war but i cannot remember him saying anything political at all. Maybe its because its not an election year for the Prez.

It was one of the best concerts I have ever been to by the way...TK has pyro going off than when I saw AC/DC.

BTW Kirby, TK has always made it clear he is a democrat. He didn't vote for Bush, and as of right now will always be a democrat. His main opinion is support for our troops, which there alot of people in this country that doesn't. I don't think you will see him out there doing anything for GDUB, or the republican party anytime soon.

[RonH]

Originally Posted by Thor Henning

We are one world aren't we? I just said you should look for your freedom of speach. Take care of it.

Yes Thor we are one world. Unfortunately there is a majority in this world that wants to take away our right of free speech. And I think history shows that we do what it takes to take care of it. Granted we as a country are in a situation that we are torn apart about. Do I have a solution? No. But, make no mistake that we will continue to fight against those who want to take our freedoms. And that goes for GDUB and his policies too.

[Ginger]

Originally Posted by Kellyk

I can't believe that the backlash is still going on...talk about holding a grudge. Natalie was guitlty of poor timing, that's all. Pediphiles get better treatment than the Chicks have recieved over an opinion. I don't like Bush or his 'stratagies" but plenty of tacky/distasteful remarks have been made about politicians, countries, cultures that I would support and I can't think of one that would make me hang on to a petty grudge for sooooo long. Some networks are refusing to run the ads for their movie... It's just rediculous to me. Get over it.

Exactamundo. And the same goes for what Kelly said again down below. She gets it.

It all comes down to the listening public. Like Bufante said, Green Day punishes Bush in every song...but Green Day listeners eat it up because generally they are younger, anti-establishment types. Not so for DC fans.

The DC's never apologized, just so you know. I applaude them for that. Their latest song is all about this. Some of the lyrics:

I made by bed, and I sleep like a baby,
With no regrets and I don't mind saying,
It's a sad sad story
That a mother will teach her daughter
that she ought to hate a perfect stranger.
And how in the world
Can the words that I said
Send somebody so over the edge
That they'd write me a letter
Saying that I better shut up and sing
Or my life will be over

I'm not ready to make nice,
I'm not ready to back down,
I'm still mad as hell
And I don't have time
To go round and round and round
It's too late to make it right
I probably wouldn't if I could
Cause I'm mad as hell
Can't bring myself to do what it is
You think I should

[MaripositaII]

Originally Posted by Seakony

I never liked the chicks anyway, But I did find it tacky making that statement in another country and to our allies at that. I also did not approve of Clinton protesting the war in another country while in school in England. If you got a problem ....keep it in your own backyard. I felt like bitching to the British made all Americans look bad. If they had made the comment on american soil , it probably would not have been a big deal.

Haven't you ever bitched to your friends about your family? It's the same thing to me. I don't think the British are so narrow minded to thing that all Americans are idiots like their president. Trust me. I was there this summer and there were tons of American tourist everywhere who were being treated very nicely. What the Chicks or Clinton said/says does not make British or Europeans dislike the average citizen.

[PlayadelSoul]

Originally Posted by Ginger

Exactamundo. And the same goes for what Kelly said again down below. She gets it.

It all comes down to the listening public. Like Bufante said, Green Day punishes Bush in every song...but Green Day listeners eat it up because generally they are younger, anti-establishment types. Not so for DC fans.

The DC's never apologized, just so you know. I applaude them for that. Their latest song is all about this.

Of course it is. It is all they have. A one trick pony with a song and a movie. Whats next "I support the Dixie Chicks in Their Fight Against Bush Imperialism" t-shirts? This just begs the question of who it really is that wants to keep this little issue in the spotlight.

They wanted to build a fan base using Jethro and MaryBelle Six pack, which is not too hard to do these days when it comes to country music. Now that their fan base has evaporated, they have nothing but the event left. They are where they started, irrelevant in the music scene. They spoke up and got the ultimate smack down.

They will have to be happy with their new liberal elitist fan base. Its small, but the cocktail parties are nice.

I love democracy. Vote with your wallet.

[Jacko]

Quote of Note:

"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country."

-- President Theodore Roosevelt

[kirbyfan]

Originally Posted by Ginger

Exactamundo. And the same goes for what Kelly said again down below. She gets it.

It all comes down to the listening public. Like Bufante said, Green Day punishes Bush in every song...but Green Day listeners eat it up because generally they are younger, anti-establishment types. Not so for DC fans.

The DC's never apologized, just so you know. I applaude them for that. Their latest song is all about this. Some of the lyrics:

Wrongamundo!

Natalie manes did issue a public apology for what she said, heres one link:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Musi...ogy/index.html

[kirbyfan]

Originally Posted by RonH

BTW Kirby, TK has always made it clear he is a democrat. He didn't vote for Bush, and as of right now will always be a democrat. His main opinion is support for our troops, which there alot of people in this country that doesn't. I don't think you will see him out there doing anything for GDUB, or the republican party anytime soon.

Toby is a bit of an enigma. Hes a registerd democrat who sometimes votes Dem and sometimes Republican. He has made donations to the Republican party and has spoken out in favor of some Democrats....

IMO maybe we should all be a little bit more like this instead of towing the party line regardless like so many do on both sides of the aisle.

[Jacko]

Did I read that link, right? Y'all are talking about something that an entertainer said in 2003???

Sounds like Jane Fonda all over again.....

(Only in America...... )

[PlayadelSoul]

Originally Posted by Jacko

Quote of Note:

"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country."

-- President Theodore Roosevelt

I don't believe anyone has an issue with them saying whatever goes through their vacant minds. I, for one, don't think they are unpatriotic, although I do think they are racist for using the word "Dixie" in their name.

Dixie Chick #1 strikes me as a spoiled little teenager who is going to give her opinion, no matter what. She might be shown evidence to the contrary, but she is not going to consider it. She waffles, then stands firm, and then waffles again. I look forward to seeing how she ages, when 10 years from now she appears on VH1s, Where are they Now? My guess is she won't have changed a lick, and she will spend the entire program badmouthing President Allen.