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Old 11-01-2006   #211 (permalink)
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Don't worry...you aren't necessarily the buttface it was directed at.
I was thinking of your statement you made, here:

and I have to disagree again. For some, perhaps it is. But for many, just common sense....in the OP we saw a projection on how much the costs will be if nothing is done...so really, wouldn't it be economically sound to DO something, rather than not?
My point there was that if we were to use a sensible approach that included business (because, usually it is the private sector that comes up with solutions to problems), there would be some in the environmental movement that would cry "foul." Nothing more than that.

As I said before, if it is a real problem it will be addressed. The solutions will come from someone working on something barely related to global warming, and it will be a cheaper form of energy. That is my prediction.
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My point there was that if we were to use a sensible approach that included business (because, usually it is the private sector that comes up with solutions to problems), there would be some in the environmental movement that would cry "foul." Nothing more than that.

As I said before, if it is a real problem it will be addressed. The solutions will come from someone working on something barely related to global warming, and it will be a cheaper form of energy. That is my prediction.
I think, ideally, solutions will come about as a combination of private enterprise and government initiatives, laws, etc.
Here is an example- would car manufacturers have stopped making cars without catalytic converters (or do I have that backwards? ) if it hadn't been the law first to use only unleaded gas?
There is an example of how we have already started making positive changes.
Another is the company I worked for now offers biodeisel engines for many of the brands of machinery, and will offer more all the time. They do this because the customer demands it.
I think it will take both sides working together, and the changes won't be all at once, so no one, unless they have poor planning, should suffer economically.

Most companies don't have a big concern about the environment, they care about their bottom line....that is where the environmental groups come in, to pressure the gov't to make changes to laws to force the companies to change. I know many people distrust the gov't...but I see gov't as being there to work for the betterment of the people, whether or not we see it that way at the time. And of course they screw up sometimes, they are only human themselves.
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when I first saw the photo of an emaciated bear, it was jarring and very sad....I admit I first though it was related to climate change, and I'm usually very careful to not be manipulated...sure enough, it was meant to manipulate.


What everybody got wrong about that viral video of a starving polar bear
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I get a not found for the video, is it the fake news?"
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I get a not found for the video, is it the fake news?"
Viral video of starving polar bear spurs calls for climate change action | CTV Montreal News

the link on this one works.

More recent stories are more facts and less heartstring-tugging-with-inaccurate claims, like the first link. (NOT that the video isn't heartbreaking, of course.)
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