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Old 08-19-2008   #46 (permalink)
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Chido Jesus!

I keep hearing about the "light rail system" between Cancun and Tulum (possibly even further south). Any info on that?

Saludos...

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There was lots of talk about the Tulum airport amongst the locals while we were there. Maybe it's coming to fruition after all?
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Another note:
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Lista listacion del aereopuerto de la riviera maya

Recién le platicaba también de los avances de otro proceso, ya rezagado, como es el del aeropuerto de la Riviera Maya y cuyas bases fueron entregadas a la CFC de Eduardo Pérez Motta para que dé su visto bueno.

De hecho está programada su discusión en el pleno de esa dependencia para el próximo 14 de agosto, toda vez que desde esta semana la misma tomará un receso de 15 días.

Hay que recordar que el punto de vista de la CFC en el tema de la licitación de esta terminal aeroportuaria, no es un trámite más, dadas las álgidas discusiones que en su momento se dieron respecto a la posible participación de Asur.

El objetivo de contar con un nuevo aeropuerto en la Riviera Maya busca desahogar la fuerte actividad aérea que se tiene en Cancún y habilitar otra opción en un lugar turístico que posee su propia dinámica.

Por supuesto que entre los interesados está Asur que encabeza Fernando Chico Pardo, pero la CFC manifestó en el pasado férreas objeciones debido a los riesgos que habría para la competencia.

De por sí con la crisis de la aviación se han ahondado las críticas a las tarifas que prevalecen en los aeropuertos, tras una privatización en el sexenio de Ernesto Zedillo, que no fue la más afortunada, puesto que se trasladaron monopolios estatales a tres grupos privados, con reglas más bien laxas.

Pero más allá de lo anterior, se conoce que Asur está más que puesto para tratar de ir por el proyecto de la nueva terminal, aparentemente con alguna firma española. Ha rondado por ahí OHL que lleva José Andrés de Oteyza.

No sería el único, pues tampoco se descarta a OMA de Rubén López, obviamente con ICA de Bernardo Quintana que es su principal socio. Igual se habla de algún interés de GAP que lleva Jorge Sales. La misma IDEAL que dirige Alfonso Salem Slim deberá estar.

Salvado el trámite de la CFC se espera que la SCT de Luis Téllez pudiera arrancar la subasta en el transcurso de agosto, para que se entreguen las propuestas hacia el primer trimestre del 2009. Se pretende que la obra esté lista en enero del 2012.

El aeropuerto se realizaría en un par de etapas. La primera implicará una pista y una terminal con 8 posiciones de contacto y 4 remotas. También se prevén espacios para aviación general con otros 24 puntos.

La inversión en esa fase se proyecta en unos 3 mil 300 millones de pesos, aunque claro, el monto definitivo dependerá de las ofertas que se pongan en la mesa para finalmente desahogar este proyecto.

Así que para la terminal aérea de la Riviera Maya los tiempos se acercan.

Basically,:

The proyect has been turned to the CFC "Fedeal Comisson on Competence" (anti-monopoly comisson) to be checked, as ASUR wants to run this other airport.

After (if) CFC's aproval, SCT (DOT equivalent) is expected to open the auction by the end of August. Finishing date for proposals would be in the first quarter of 2009 and begining of operations by January 2012.

The construction would be done in two stages: First with one runway and a terminal building with 8 contact postions and 4 remotes. Also 24 positions for general aviation.
Investments on this phase would be around 3,300 million pesos, 330 million dollars
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I don't doubt that Tulum will have an airport, but I wonder why they're currently expanding and building a new runway in Cancun if they're going to invest this much in an airport in Tulum? I mean, I want to believe it, my wife and her Mom own property in Tulum and the increase in tourism would be great for their property value, but I'm still just not 100% convinced that this airport will be anything more than a commuter airport or something like that.
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Chido Jesus!

I keep hearing about the "light rail system" between Cancun and Tulum (possibly even further south). Any info on that?

Saludos...
In the aviation forum where I got those two articles, they have the same rumors, but I haven´t seen anything remotely official (permits talks, plans, etc.)
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I don't doubt that Tulum will have an airport, but I wonder why they're currently expanding and building a new runway in Cancun if they're going to invest this much in an airport in Tulum? I mean, I want to believe it, my wife and her Mom own property in Tulum and the increase in tourism would be great for their property value, but I'm still just not 100% convinced that this airport will be anything more than a commuter airport or something like that.
In Cancún they cleared the area for another runway, but I haven't seen any works on it since last year. Any updates? I already asked in the CUN thread, but nobody has posted new info. We need a peep to take pictures while taking off or on an approach to verify the advances, if any.

ASUR is playing both games, if they don't get the concession for Tulum, then they finish the runway in CUN and give a hard time to the new one.
If they get Tulum, they may leave the land clered, or not.

Anyway, having Tulum is a safeguard for aviation, as it may serve as an alternate airport in case of emergencies or weather related jams, etc. It's closer than Merida.

Cozumel is more complicated as an alternate because of the crossing via ferry, same for Isla Mujeres. Tulum is longer, but you can get as many buses as you need on short notice, and it doesn't matter if it's raining cats and dogs (or turtles and sharks).

For comparison:
CUN
Runway: 12-30 = 3500m X 60m (11483 x197 ft)
Largest aircraft: B-747-400, B-777-300
Runway capacity – operations per hour: 34
Operating hours: 24 hours

COZ
Runway: 11-29 = 2,700 X 45 m (8,858 X 148 ft)
05-23 = 2,500 X 45 m (8,202 X 148 ft)
Largest aircraft: MD11
Runway capacity – operations per hour: 22
Operating hours: 0700-2100

MID
Runway: 10-28 = 3,200 X 46 m (10,499 X 151ft)
17-35 = 2,300 X 46 m (7,546 X 151 ft)
Largest aircraft: B-747-400, B-777-300
Runway capacity – operations per hour: 30
Operating hours: 24hrs

ISJ
Runway: 4003 ft
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We need a peep to take pictures while taking off or on an approach to verify the advances, if any.
Hi Jesus, I don't have pictures, but last month we saw what looked to be the new CUN runway in progress. They were building it (as a bridge) over the road between the highway and the airport. It could have been additional taxi-way, but I remember mentioning to my wife that it looks like they are building a new runway.

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Hi Jesus, I don't have pictures, but last month we saw what looked to be the new CUN runway in progress. They were building it (as a bridge) over the road between the highway and the airport. It could have been additional taxi-way, but I remember mentioning to my wife that it looks like they are building a new runway.

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construction has not started
contracts have not been awarded
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Cool, thanks Rick. Do you know what they are working on at the Cancun airport?
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Cool, thanks Rick. Do you know what they are working on at the Cancun airport?
My bad
I misread and thought you were referring to Tulum
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The runway looks like it's all ready to be paved. Just like the other side of 307 down by Tulum. It's all flattened out, but still dirt.
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My bad
I misread and thought you were referring to Tulum
No problem.

Do you know if the construction at the Cancun airport is for a new runway? It sure looks like it.
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Hi Jesus, I don't have pictures, but last month we saw what looked to be the new CUN runway in progress. They were building it (as a bridge) over the road between the highway and the airport. It could have been additional taxi-way, but I remember mentioning to my wife that it looks like they are building a new runway.

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Thanks for the 0.02,

Have you checked the pictures I posted in the Cancun thread? Do they look like any changes from last year?

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Thanks for the 0.02,

Have you checked the pictures I posted in the Cancun thread? Do they look like any changes from last year?

Thanks again Jesus, I did see your pictures on the Cancun thread, but I can't tell exactly where that runway is located. I am still guessing that they are moving forward with the new runway at the Cancun Airport, but we need someone else to chime in with additional information.
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Thanks again Jesus, I did see your pictures on the Cancun thread, but I can't tell exactly where that runway is located. I am still guessing that they are moving forward with the new runway at the Cancun Airport, but we need someone else to chime in with additional information.
Well the cleared area is the light brown strip parallel to the actual runway and strip of buildings.

In the other side of the terminals you see the parking lots and driveways, after that some jungle and the cleared strip.
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