USA Presidential Politics - 2008

[PlayadelSoul]

Originally Posted by StewartG

You are making a gross generalization. You are totally off the mark (pun intended!)

I'm a liberal and I want the kind of government that George W. Bush SAID he wanted in the 2000 election when he ran on a campaign of "compassionate conservatism."

My political beliefs fall VERY strongly into the category of "compassionate conservative."

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Well, that would make you a compassionate conservative, then. Not a liberal. How many nametags you want, pardner?

[Just Lucky]

Originally Posted by PlayadelSoul

Actually, I believe in the Government that is spelled out in the Constitution. One that does little, but does what it is supposed to do, well. It all comes down to what is enumerated. Liberals, on the other hand, believe in an all-encompassing State that controls every little detail of life.

So, yeah, you are right. There is a big divide. Thing is, we have the Founding Fathers on our side.

While I appreciate your point of view I think that if one reads what the founding fathers had in mind it would have little to do with the neo-con reality in practice. You mean an "all encompassing state" that tortures people, that takes away peoples basic human rights and listens in on their telephone calls or watches their phone records? A state in which the executive is certain that laws do not apply to him? Give me liberty.

[PlayadelSoul]

Originally Posted by southbound

Where there is Rudy there is vitriol -- he's been trying to put on his kindler, gentler face but he won't be able to maintain that for too long -- wait and see.

You may be right, but I don't see it being as bad as anti-Bush or anti-Clinton vitriol. That is just plain, flat out, Andrew Jackson-type nastiness.

[PlayadelSoul]

Originally Posted by Just Lucky

While I appreciate your point of view I think that if one reads what the founding fathers had in mind it would have little to do with the neo-con reality in practice. You mean an "all encompassing state" that tortures people, that takes away peoples basic human rights and listens in on their telephone calls or watches their phone records? Give me liberty.

If that were indeed true, then impeachment hearings should start ASAP. Since I haven't seen anyone make that move, I have to assume that it is just partisan BS and paranoia.

[Just Lucky]

Originally Posted by PlayadelSoul

If that were indeed true, then impeachment hearings should start ASAP. Since I haven't seen anyone make that move, I have to assume that it is just partisan BS and paranoia.

While haste makes waste I couldn't agree with your first sentence more! I am glad we had this moment to share. The proposed bill begins with the impeachment of the Vice-President.

According to the New Hampshire-based American Research Group, 54% of adults favor proceeding with impeachment proceedings against Cheney. Among Democrats, the support for impeachment is 76%, and among those who identified themselves as "Independents," the support is 51%. Even 17% of Republicans said they favor impeachment.

More than half of Americans support Kucinich’s call to impeach Cheney, poll shows | Kucinich for President 2008

[PlayadelSoul]

Originally Posted by Just Lucky

While haste makes waste I couldn't agree with your first sentence more! I am glad we had this moment to share. The proposed bill begins with the impeachment of the Vice-President.More than half of Americans support Kucinich’s call to impeach Cheney, poll shows | Kucinich for President 2008

For what? Because you don't like him? That's in the best interest of the country.

[Just Lucky]

Originally Posted by PlayadelSoul

For what? Because you don't like him? That's in the best interest of the country.

I assume you didn't read the bill in my link.

[PlayadelSoul]

Originally Posted by Just Lucky

I assume you didn't read the bill in my link.

To be honest, I am afraid to link to Dennis Kucinich's website for fear that it will install a virus that turns my screensaver into a peace sign.

I will check it, if you promise me that there are no cookies.

OK, I read it. As I thought, fluff. Going to prosecute Bill and Hillary, as well, for spreading disinformation regarding Iraq's capabilities and intentions?

[StewartG]

Originally Posted by PlayadelSoul

To be honest, I am afraid to link to Dennis Kucinich's website for fear that it will install a virus that turns my screensaver into a peace sign.

I will check it, if you promise me that there are no cookies.

Dennis Kucinich?

Hell Mark, I suspect you'll get cookies AND milk!

[PlayadelSoul]

Originally Posted by StewartG

Dennis Kucinich?

Hell Mark, I suspect you'll get cookies AND milk!

I knew it. First thing that pops up on my computer is the peace sign. Freaking, idealistic hippy with a Napolean complex.

[Just Lucky]

Originally Posted by PlayadelSoul

I knew it. First thing that pops up on my computer is the peace sign. Freaking, idealistic hippy with a Napolean complex.

What's really far out is that if you visit his website ten times in one month you get free instruction in Transcendental Meditation along with some patchouli oil!

[Mr Cancun]

Originally Posted by PlayadelSoul

To be honest, I am afraid to link to Dennis Kucinich's website for fear that it will install a virus that turns my screensaver into a peace sign.

I will check it, if you promise me that there are no cookies.

OK, I read it. As I thought, fluff. Going to prosecute Bill and Hillary, as well, for spreading disinformation regarding Iraq's capabilities and intentions?

LMFAO !!!!!!!!!!! I spewed Dr Pepper on my 19" LCD.

[Mr Cancun]

I am not sure who the most scariest is, Kucinich or Ron Paul?

[PlayadelSoul]

Originally Posted by Just Lucky

What's really far out is that if you visit his website ten times in one month you get free instruction in Transcendental Meditation along with some patchouli oil!

ooohhhhhhmmmmmm

[sctx]

Originally Posted by Mr Cancun

I am not sure who the most scariest is, Kucinich or Ron Paul?

Ron Paul is an idiot.......Kucinich is just a lame weenie