USA Presidential Politics - 2008

[Mexivoof]

[quote=diogeron;1186267] People like THEIR congressmen, but don't like Congress as a whole.



I will probably vote for my Congress woman again, not because I like her; but coming from an overwhelmingly Democratic district no serious Republican is going to oppose her. I'm sure there will be some nut job on the ballot, but unless he/she shows up on my doorstep and makes a convincing case Go Gwen Moore

[StewartG]

Originally Posted by Mr Cancun

Interesting read from a right wing news site on Obama's College Years and that he might have been financed from the Saudi family. I doubt anyone will read, but it is there just in case.

Newsmax.com – Obama Had Close Ties to Top Saudi Adviser at Early Age

WOW!!! The very LAST thing we would want in the White House is someone with close ties to the Saudi family!!!

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[diogeron]

I just read it. This is classic guilt by association technique perfected by Joe McCarthy and his ilk. There is absolutely no claim nor evidence that he was "financed" from the Saudi family or that he did anything wrong. As for associating with Saudis, anyone who was on a college campus in that time frame can tell you that campuses were full of rich Saudis, often driving BMWs, which they bought when they arrived and sold when they left. After 9-11, a lot of them went back as did a lot of other Middle Eastern students and the visas got tougher to maintain. In the late 80s and early 90s, however, Saudis were everywhere so it doesn't surprise me at all that he knew a Saudi with connections. There was one in grad school with me at IU who fit this profile although it was years before Obama was there.

Lots of smoke. No fire.

Originally Posted by Mr Cancun

Interesting read from a right wing news site on Obama's College Years and that he might have been financed from the Saudi family. I doubt anyone will read, but it is there just in case.

Newsmax.com – Obama Had Close Ties to Top Saudi Adviser at Early Age

[roni]

[quote=Mexivoof;1186313]

Originally Posted by diogeron

People like THEIR congressmen, but don't like Congress as a whole.



I will probably vote for my Congress woman again, not because I like her; but coming from an overwhelmingly Democratic district no serious Republican is going to oppose her. I'm sure there will be some nut job on the ballot, but unless he/she shows up on my doorstep and makes a convincing case Go Gwen Moore

Our incumbent moderate Dem Darlene Hooley is retiring. I think the Dem is going to win. In the primary it came out that Mike Erickson, Repub, gave a young woman money - sorry - loaned a young woman a few hundred dollars and drove her to an abortion - oops, sorry again, to a medical clinic. Well, he won the Republican primary.

Now it has come out that he made a cigar and rum tourist trip - there I go again, a charitable donation trip - to Cuba a few years ago. Took 20 boxes of stuff, he said. Only problem is that everyone else on the trip said it was a tourist thing disguised as a humanitarian trip, including the organizer. But Mike said he asked every Cuban he met how they liked living under communist rule and what they wanted to do. He also provided the name and address of the medical clinic he personally delivered the supplies to. Only problem was that it didn't exist.

I think he is going to get to keep running his business without the distractions of representing a congressional district.

[sctx]

Originally Posted by StewartG

I have made an informal study comparing the average intellectual and reasoning ability, grasp of logic and (admittedly) mastery of english usage and grammar between the right wing and left wing posters who participate on this thread.

I will not discuss my findings, but they were... Mmmmm... kinda interesting.

so becuz I can express my opinions in one sentence and it takes you 4 paragraphs, you're somewhat more intelligent??? ....... me thinks you have productivity issues to deal with

[Just Lucky]

Originally Posted by roni

Ohmygod

The news of his being a deep mole planted by the Muslims must be true

And yet, he has little interest in my conspiracy theory that the two top Republican candidates are, in all actuality North Korean agents.

Sad really.

[roni]

I have seen photos of the Bush men holding hands with Saudis and even kissing their cheeks. Can you believe that. Maybe it was just foreplay for what they are doing to us in the oil markets

Originally Posted by diogeron

I just read it. This is classic guilt by association technique perfected by Joe McCarthy and his ilk. There is absolutely no claim nor evidence that he was "financed" from the Saudi family or that he did anything wrong. As for associating with Saudis, anyone who was on a college campus in that time frame can tell you that campuses were full of rich Saudis, often driving BMWs, which they bought when they arrived and sold when they left. After 9-11, a lot of them went back as did a lot of other Middle Eastern students and the visas got tougher to maintain. In the late 80s and early 90s, however, Saudis were everywhere so it doesn't surprise me at all that he knew a Saudi with connections. There was one in grad school with me at IU who fit this profile although it was years before Obama was there.

Lots of smoke. No fire.

[diogeron]

Why Bush is holding hands with a Saudi prince. - By Fred Kaplan - Slate Magazine

Do you mean like this one with Crown Prince Abdullah in 2005?

Originally Posted by roni

I have seen photos of the Bush men holding hands with Saudis and even kissing their cheeks. Can you believe that. Maybe it was just foreplay for what they are doing to us in the oil markets

[Buggirl]

Originally Posted by james

Good stuff, James- good, good stuff........

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by roni

I have seen photos of the Bush men holding hands with Saudis and even kissing their cheeks. Can you believe that. Maybe it was just foreplay for what they are doing to us in the oil markets

[diogeron]

Right under your name, it says you have posted 27,000 times to this site? So much for brevity, "my friend", as John McCain would say

Originally Posted by sctx

so becuz I can express my opinions in one sentence and it takes you 4 paragraphs, you're somewhat more intelligent??? ....... me thinks you have productivity issues to deal with

[StewartG]

Originally Posted by james

Republicans are hypocrites?

Really? Holy cow!!!

Say it ain't so, James!!!



(Seriously, thanks for sharing. I haven't watched this episode yet. Priceless dude, priceless...)

[MaripositaII]

Originally Posted by StewartG

Democrate!

I should be spanked by Stogey for misspelling Democrate

[sctx]

Originally Posted by diogeron

Right under you name, it says you have posted 27,000 times to this site? So much for brevity, "my friend", as John McCain would say

my 27,000 posts equate to 3 Ryberg posts in total wordage

[Just Lucky]

Originally Posted by Jacko

Oh good I can put my reaction to roni's wit here and it won't like I'm piling on.:joke r: