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Old 08-08-2007   #2266 (permalink)
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Wow, you sure are getting a lot of mileage out of one election. An election where you ran more conservative Democrats, who are now going to turn around and join their Republican counterparts in funding the war that all of you were so desperate to end.

Gloat on.
oh I dunno...we did pretty well in 1992, 1996, and 2000, as well

......the pendulum swings..you went too far this time....your party's now on the wrong end of the swing again...its high time for more change...the world needs a break...
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Elizabeth Edwards on her husband. "We can't make him black and we can't make him a woman." But, you sure can make him look perty.
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Old 08-08-2007   #2268 (permalink)
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Elizabeth Edwards on her husband. "We can't make him black and we can't make him a woman." But, you sure can make him look perty.
But isn't it perversely nice to know that even with good looks, one can strike out?
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Old 08-09-2007   #2271 (permalink)
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Old 08-09-2007   #2272 (permalink)
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Well golly, he outa fit right in then eh?
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Old 08-09-2007   #2273 (permalink)
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Well golly, he outa fit right in then eh?
Maybe he went to GOP social issue training camp, because he flipped on gay rights too. I agree, he now fits the mold of your party. Giuliani's the only one drawing outside the lines and his own kids won't vote for him...
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Maybe he went to GOP social issue training camp, because he flipped on gay rights too. I agree, he now fits the mold of your party. Giuliani's the only one drawing outside the lines and his own kids won't vote for him...
To borrow a line used at least a billion times from YOUR party...isnt a guy entitled to change his mind? Whats so wrong with that??
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To borrow a line used at least a billion times from YOUR party...isnt a guy entitled to change his mind? Whats so wrong with that??
Nothing wrong with changing your mind. Imo, it is disingenuous to do it in an attempt to fit some pre-fab confines of your political party. If appeasing your base is more important than sticking to your beliefs, to me that says you care more about getting elected than the issues you once stood for. Not what I look for in a leader.
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Nothing wrong with changing your mind. Imo, it is disingenuous to do it in an attempt to fit some pre-fab confines of your political party. If appeasing your base is more important than sticking to your beliefs, to me that says you care more about getting elected than the issues you once stood for. Not what I look for in a leader.
Then how can you possibly be a Democrat? Appeasing your base rather than sticking to your beliefs is one of the pillars your party was founded on!
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Then how can you possibly be a Democrat? Appeasing your base rather than sticking to your beliefs is one of the pillars your party was founded on!
Laugh away. Your top two guys are an unelectable social liberal and an ultra-conservative one-time Democrat. Good luck with that.
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Laugh away. Your top two guys are an unelectable social liberal and an ultra-conservative one-time Democrat. Good luck with that.
I am completely fine with that..and that isnt any sillier than Jacko's bravado about his party's chances.
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I am completely fine with that..and that isnt any sillier than Jacko's bravado about his party's chances.
Whaaat?? Like the silliness of demeaning the importance of a senator or the qualification of a senator to become president?

Were all just bozos on this bus.....
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I am completely fine with that..and that isnt any sillier than Jacko's bravado about his party's chances.
Well, let's both set bravado aside for a moment. This started out as a discussion of issues and flip flopping. If you have a defense of Romney, I'd actually like to hear it. One that doesn't involve pointing it back to the Dems, as we are, in fact, discussing a Republican nominee for a change.
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