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Old 06-04-2007   #241 (permalink)
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Old 06-04-2007   #242 (permalink)
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Whatever happened to him?
He had that nasty spat with Bush 41, then sort of fell off the radar screen ...

(I voted for him!)
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Old 06-04-2007   #243 (permalink)
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That's one of your best ones in a while, Scott, imo.

Again, I agree with Dartay. (Make a note of it!) Do a poll of the public or of conservative voters, if you like, and ask them to choose between Al Gore and Hillary Clinton. I'll bet you my last nickel that Gore wins, and wins by a wide margin.

And again, not talking right or wrong here or anything like that, just talking the reality of public opinion and reaction, the way I see it, anyway.

Seems like Edwards is already scrambling. He'd do better to bide his time, I think, as that scrambling just seems to confirm that he's not so viable a candidate. He needs to take a page out of Obama's book, in that way, I think. It would serve him better than looking like the fight starter among the leading candidates. Both Clinton and Obama have it right: occasional light jabs, maybe, but focus on unity among Dems and the greater evil over in the other party.

Course they may have an easier job of it, each one realizing s/he could if nothing else end up the VP candidate for the other (though a bit hard to imagine Clinton accepting that if she loses out to Obama, I admit). Edwards is like the fifth wheel in that little relationship, or the odd man out in the love triangle, or something.

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That's one of your best ones in a while, Scott, imo.
I've got a pic of me and Ross' long lost twin brother in Cancun in '95.......the guy looked just like him and sounded just like him...but he was from Illinois.......it was a hilarious nite!!!.....I think the bar was called Shooters on the lagoon, across from the Oasis.......you never had to worry about what Ross really thought on any given subject......why worry about which way the wind is blowing when you can just buy it
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I disagree about Gore. He has the same "intangibles" problem that Hillary has with the greater population. Hillary, I, too, have said before, would be a mistake for the Dems as a presidential candidate. So far, I would take the gamble on Osama over anyone else in the Dem race right now. For the Reps, they should go with Giuliani.

I think we are getting to the point where it would make more sense for "slates" to run, as opposed to having people elect individuals. If I know who Candidate X would be putting forth as his/her SecState, SecDef, Energy Czar, etc., and those people committed to serving; I think that would help me overlook some of what I saw to be Candidate X's shortcomings (or the opposite). Yes, Gore would probably be the best choice for developing a cohesive environmental/energy policy; but I have huge questions about how effective he would be on the diplomatic front, especially where a strong defensive action is required. John Edwards would be good in the dmoestic policy arena; but I don't know about the worldwide arena.
Lets not be too askeered of the Republican influence here....if Gore were to run, he has objectively a great record to run on as a VP, AND he has the positive improvements he has made in approachability since then and the whole environmental thing...while he would certainly have negatives with Republican voters, I doubt his negatives would be near as high as Mrs. Clinton's with the Republicans....for various distasteful reasons.

Gore/Edwards or Gore/Obama works for me....if Gore would decide to run...

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I just finished watching the debates on C-Span. Rather interesting that when Sen Gravelle (sp) mentioned they were all responsible since they are in leadership positions, everyone pretty much ignored him...same held true when he came back with robbing the Social Security fund.
Don't get me wrong, I think he has a snow ball's chance, but I did find it refreshing to hear someone thorw a couple of "look in the mirror" spears out there!
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There would be one cool, and wonderfully ironic, thing if Gore were to be drafted into running for 2008. My one big criticism of the national Democratic party is its tendency to discard failed presidential candidates; unlike the Republican Party, which tends to be more forgiving, and give failed candidates (Nixon, Reagan, Bush 41, Dole) a second try.

Gore could be the first "recycled" Democratic Presidential candidate! Now it has clicked for me!
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Old 06-04-2007   #248 (permalink)
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Whatever happened to him?
He had that nasty spat with Bush 41, then sort of fell off the radar screen ...

(I voted for him!)
He blew up a reef in somewhere to get his big boat to his dock.
He didn't have permission to.
He was, is and always will be an entertaining and successful nut

Perot we're talking about, right?
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I am not at all afraid of Hillary as a candidate. Her negatives are over-rated and I predict she'd defeat any Republican currently in the field. Against a Republican conservative (Huckabee, Thomspon or Newt) Hillary wins big. Against one of the Republican liberals (Rudy or Mitt), it is a closer race, but still a win. Among the leading Democratic candidates, Hillary is the only centrist, being to the right of Obama and Edwards.

I think Edwards would lose to either Giuliani or Mitt. Barack has never been in a tough election - my God the Republicans imported the ultra-right-wing Alan Keyes from Maryland to run against Obama for the Senate in Illinois after the Republican primary winner self-destructed.

I understand there are people who do not like her and I understand that the vast right-wing conspiracy would be energized. Bring them on. They are outta touch with most Americans

Gore is a winner at what he is doing. He should keep doing it. He is a loser politically, and should not throw his hat in the ring.

That is my current analysis. It could and likely will change over the next year.
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Did anybody happen to see the arrests made on the terrorists who planned to blow up JFK airport? It's nice to Know that at lest till Jan 2008 that our Security is doing their jobs.
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Did anybody happen to see the arrests made on the terrorists who planned to blow up JFK airport? It's nice to Know that at lest till Jan 2008 that our Security is doing their jobs.
Might want to start this in its own thread.

Then stand back, and watch Susie cringe all over again~
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What happens January 08 .
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What happens January 08 .
Is seakony planning something?? A party maybe
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Is seakony planning something?? A party maybe
Aztec end of the world?
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Your quote, not Mayan

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