USA Presidential Politics - 2008 - Page 2

Banzoomba · 01-21-2007

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Originally Posted by Oso de Yogui

The Republican party reminds me of Nigeria.....splintered! They'll really need to come together over the next year to be viable. I've heard that Giuliani has been talking to Ehrlich....of course he didn't win in MD, but he's a pretty rare (common) sense guy! Will people be voting for Hillary or Bill?

a Giuliani - Ehrlich ticket would be very easy for me to support.......I thought Bob was a great Gov. with the State House and Senate.....trying hard to stop everything he tried to do

Oso de Yogui · 01-21-2007

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Originally Posted by Banzoomba

a Giuliani - Ehrlich ticket would be very easy for me to support.......I thought Bob was a great Gov. with the State House and Senate.....trying hard to stop everything he tried to do

No shades of Spiro here!!

roni · 01-24-2007

From the Washington Post's website

Let's Parse the Polls!

Clinton appears to start the race in the pole position as she led Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) 41 percent to 17 percent. Former Sen. John Edwards (N.C.) placed third with 11 percent.

Clinton's lead overall extends to most subgroups in the survey. A few are particularly interesting:

* Among non-white voters Clinton led Obama 56 percent to 16 percent. Cohen notes that "non white" encompasses African American, Hispanic, Asian and "other" voters, but the subgroup is dominated by black voters. In fact, if you combine black voters in the Post's December and January surveys, Clinton leads Obama among black voters 60 percent to 20 percent. Given that Obama is black and would be the first African-American elected president, it's somewhat surprising that the historic nature of his candidacy has not galvanized the black community. Of course there are two mitigating factors: First, former President Bill Clinton remains an iconic figure in the black community and some of his popularity appears to be wearing off on his wife. Second, Hillary Clinton remains a far better known commodity nationwide than Obama. As hard as it is to believe, there are still plenty of potential voters who know little or nothing about Obama; few people can say the same of Clinton.

* Clinton leads Obama among unmarried women 56 percent to 13 percent, while leading among married women by a far less impressive 41 percent to 23 percent. As the Post's Lois Romano explored in her story earlier this week, Clinton's campaign is putting considerable focus on wooing women with a message that she, like them, is a mother and a daughter. The numbers above suggest that the women's vote is quite nuanced. Clinton is seen as a iconic figure among younger women who admire her ability to balance her professional and private lives. Among women who have never been married she holds a 43 percent to 12 percent edge over Obama. Clinton's female contemporaries are more suspect about her motives (too cold? too calculating?), and represent a much more serious challenge for her campaign.

* The idea that Clinton has positioned herself as a moderate Democrat appears to be borne out in the survey. She holds her widest lead over Obama (54 percent to 16 percent) among self-identified conservative Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents. Her narrowest lead is among liberals, who favor Clinton over Obama 38 percent to 20 percent. Moderates favor Clinton 37 percent to 15 percent. Clinton has a right to feel good about her margins across the ideological spectrum but must watch her left flank carefully. The nomination fights tend to be dominated by liberal voters and she must find a way to convince this influential voting bloc that she -- not Obama, Edwards or even former Vice President Al Gore -- is best equipped to represent their interests in the general election.

yoonohoo · 01-24-2007

I too will be hoping for a Clinton nomination as I think she is not electable. But just in case I will be purchasing more likely to be restricted firearms just in case

Some time ago (2 years ago) I was told to watch Mitt Romney as he was a person who will likely be a solid candidate. It would appear that this may actually be taking place. I don't know alot about him yet but will be watching. Right now I think that McCain is the strongest candidate, but we'll see.

roni · 01-24-2007

In terms of current standings, Mitt is second tier - Giuliani is in the lead, followed by McCain.

PlayadelSoul · 01-24-2007

McCain, too old. Guliani, too much. Romney, too many rumors.

GOP needs to keep looking. Too bad Jeb has the wrong last name.

Cosmo · 01-24-2007

...Back to the future, Gore/Obama, a wrong is righted and America moves on...

Jacko · 01-24-2007

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Originally Posted by Cosmo

...Back to the future, Gore/Obama, a wrong is righted and America moves on...

That's the ticket, Cosmo!

Cosmo · 01-24-2007

...Right on brotha'.....

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Originally Posted by Jacko

That's the ticket, Cosmo!

**sctx** · 01-24-2007

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Originally Posted by Cosmo

...Back to the future, Gore/Obama, a wrong is righted and America moves on...

Gore would bore the voting public so much, they'd fall asleep and miss election day

roni · 01-24-2007

Gore should take the same road Kerry did, not run and get lost in his global warming work.

PlayadelSoul · 01-24-2007

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Originally Posted by Cosmo

...Back to the future, Gore/Obama, a wrong is righted and America moves on...

Yeah, and after he loses this time, he will want us to count his unused carbon credits as votes.

Cosmo · 01-24-2007

...Not bored, more like hypnotized...keep our minds off Obama

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Originally Posted by sctx

Gore would bore the voting public so much, they'd fall asleep and miss election day

itsmysecondtime · 01-24-2007

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Originally Posted by roni

If Hilary gets the nomination, she will be our next president.

That is my call.

Make that two calls.

Jacko · 01-24-2007

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Originally Posted by roni

Gore should take the same road Kerry did, not run and get lost in his global warming work.

A good presidential candidate will have to learn how to run AND to do their global warming homework....carbon credits and all

01-24-2007	#18 (permalink)
roni Happy Curmudgeon Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 23,227	From the Washington Post's website Let's Parse the Polls! Clinton appears to start the race in the pole position as she led Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) 41 percent to 17 percent. Former Sen. John Edwards (N.C.) placed third with 11 percent. Clinton's lead overall extends to most subgroups in the survey. A few are particularly interesting: * Among non-white voters Clinton led Obama 56 percent to 16 percent. Cohen notes that "non white" encompasses African American, Hispanic, Asian and "other" voters, but the subgroup is dominated by black voters. In fact, if you combine black voters in the Post's December and January surveys, Clinton leads Obama among black voters 60 percent to 20 percent. Given that Obama is black and would be the first African-American elected president, it's somewhat surprising that the historic nature of his candidacy has not galvanized the black community. Of course there are two mitigating factors: First, former President Bill Clinton remains an iconic figure in the black community and some of his popularity appears to be wearing off on his wife. Second, Hillary Clinton remains a far better known commodity nationwide than Obama. As hard as it is to believe, there are still plenty of potential voters who know little or nothing about Obama; few people can say the same of Clinton. * Clinton leads Obama among unmarried women 56 percent to 13 percent, while leading among married women by a far less impressive 41 percent to 23 percent. As the Post's Lois Romano explored in her story earlier this week, Clinton's campaign is putting considerable focus on wooing women with a message that she, like them, is a mother and a daughter. The numbers above suggest that the women's vote is quite nuanced. Clinton is seen as a iconic figure among younger women who admire her ability to balance her professional and private lives. Among women who have never been married she holds a 43 percent to 12 percent edge over Obama. Clinton's female contemporaries are more suspect about her motives (too cold? too calculating?), and represent a much more serious challenge for her campaign. * The idea that Clinton has positioned herself as a moderate Democrat appears to be borne out in the survey. She holds her widest lead over Obama (54 percent to 16 percent) among self-identified conservative Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents. Her narrowest lead is among liberals, who favor Clinton over Obama 38 percent to 20 percent. Moderates favor Clinton 37 percent to 15 percent. Clinton has a right to feel good about her margins across the ideological spectrum but must watch her left flank carefully. The nomination fights tend to be dominated by liberal voters and she must find a way to convince this influential voting bloc that she -- not Obama, Edwards or even former Vice President Al Gore -- is best equipped to represent their interests in the general election. __________________ -Ron's Blog and Photos

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01-24-2007	#19 (permalink)
yoonohoo toe in water Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Omak, Washington Posts: 51	I too will be hoping for a Clinton nomination as I think she is not electable. But just in case I will be purchasing more likely to be restricted firearms just in case Some time ago (2 years ago) I was told to watch Mitt Romney as he was a person who will likely be a solid candidate. It would appear that this may actually be taking place. I don't know alot about him yet but will be watching. Right now I think that McCain is the strongest candidate, but we'll see.

01-24-2007	#20 (permalink)
roni Happy Curmudgeon Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 23,227	In terms of current standings, Mitt is second tier - Giuliani is in the lead, followed by McCain.

01-24-2007	#21 (permalink)
PlayadelSoul añejo Join Date: May 2005 Location: We'll know when we get there, We'll find mercy Posts: 8,962	McCain, too old. Guliani, too much. Romney, too many rumors. GOP needs to keep looking. Too bad Jeb has the wrong last name.

01-24-2007	#22 (permalink)
Cosmo añejo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,471	...Back to the future, Gore/Obama, a wrong is righted and America moves on...

01-24-2007	#26 (permalink)
roni Happy Curmudgeon Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 23,227	Gore should take the same road Kerry did, not run and get lost in his global warming work.

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