USA Presidential Politics - 2008

[horizon200]

Originally Posted by melliedee

If a DeLorean can run on garbage in a movie, then real scientists, with some creativity and actual political pressure, can get together and figure something out.

Just make sure you invest in Hamilton Beach. Blender sales will go through the roof!

[StephenB]

Originally Posted by sctx

Honda hydrogen fuel cell stack vehicle will hit the market in 2008, other makers will follow shortly afterwards

Till recently, these cars and other hybrids didn't seem feasible because of the payback on mileage-vs-cost of car. But when gas prices hit $5 or $6 per gallon (which they will), then everyone will be giving them a second look. We will have no choice. But the price will still suck! We are already re-tooling, but we need to quicken the pace.

[sctx]

Originally Posted by StephenB

Till recently, these cars and other hybrids didn't seem feasible because of the payback on mileage-vs-cost of car. But when gas prices hit $5 or $6 per gallon (which they will), then everyone will be giving them a second look. We will have no choice. But the price will still suck! We are already re-tooling, but we need to quicken the pace.

but I can't help but worry that when millions of these hydrogen fuel cell cars hit the roadways, the exhaust will find it's way into our waterways ... and yes, from there to the sea... and soon, sea level will rise 20 feet!!!

[StephenB]

Originally Posted by sctx

but I can't help but worry that when millions of these hydrogen fuel cell cars hit the roadways, the exhaust will find it's way into our waterways ... and yes, from there to the sea... and soon, sea level will rise 20 feet!!!

Screw New York and San Francisco! They'll just have to make the sacrifice so the rest of us can live!

[sctx]

Originally Posted by StephenB

Screw New York and San Francisco! They'll just have to make the sacrifice so the rest of us can live!

I like the way you think

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by PlayadelSoul

Look, not even Bill Clinton would sign on to Kyoto. The Senate voted 95-0 to take a pass. Many evironmentalists claim it is, at best, a superficial effort. The CBO studied it and said that compliance would cost over 4.5% of the GDP. India and China are exempt. 160 of the countries that have signed on, have nothing to do but sell carbon credits and measure air quality.

When something that lopsided and ignorant is the starting point, can you blame people for being a little leery?

melliedee already said it..screw Kyoto\..that is ancient history,....lets just sit down and start making chit happen!

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by StephenB

Sure there is. For starters, bring back our rail system to what it was. The jobs lost to trucking would be made up by a heavy increase in the construction necessary to do it while removing lots of diesel guzzlers from the highway.

Christ, am I starting to sound like a liberal? And yes, screw Kyoto for now!
War and re-tooling go hand in hand and usually result in an increase in employment, and economic growth (which we could use right now). Maybe we could also reclaim some of those jobs that went overseas.

Yeah!

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by sctx

Honda hydrogen fuel cell stack vehicle will hit the market in 2008, other makers will follow shortly afterwards

If they don't go bankrupt first...(watch GM)

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by PlayadelSoul

Look, not even Bill Clinton would sign on to Kyoto. The Senate voted 95-0 to take a pass. Many evironmentalists claim it is, at best, a superficial effort. The CBO studied it and said that compliance would cost over 4.5% of the GDP. India and China are exempt. 160 of the countries that have signed on, have nothing to do but sell carbon credits and measure air quality.

When something that lopsided and ignorant is the starting point, can you blame people for being a little leery?

I blame people for inaction and ineffectiveness in moving the ball forward...we need new leadership!

[Jacko]

I feel so "Stogey-like"..I am going to stop now

[PlayadelSoul]

Originally Posted by Jacko

melliedee already said it..screw Kyoto\..that is ancient history,....lets just sit down and start making chit happen!

Oh, to have all those hours back.

[PlayadelSoul]

Originally Posted by Jacko

I blame people for inaction and ineffectiveness in moving the ball forward...we need new leadership!

Like Bill Clinton?

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by PlayadelSoul

Oh, to have all those hours back.

All along, It was only you fighting your fears...

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by PlayadelSoul

Like Bill Clinton?

Like Bill Clinton because of how he let us down while he got it up.

[roni]

Would some moderator send out a note letting the playa.info world know that the climate cases have gathered on this thread for awhile?

thanks.