USA Presidential Politics - 2008

[Opatije]

Originally Posted by roni

Iowa called for Barack Obama - 35% of total. Hillary and Edwards tied at this point at 31% each.

Early reported data says 37% for Obama...I guess one can congratulate him decisive victory...

[roni]

Originally Posted by Opatije

Early reported data says 37% for Obama...I guess one can congratulate him decisive victory...

He did real well with young people - the current data does show 37%. with Edwards and Clinton tied. Obama also did extremely well with independents, could be very important in the general election.

On to New Hampshire and South Carolina and Super Duper Tuesday.

[Opatije]

Originally Posted by roni

He did real well with young people - the current data does show 37%. with Edwards and Clinton tied. Obama also did extremely well with independents, could be very important in the general election.

On to New Hampshire and South Carolina and Super Duper Tuesday.

This is historic precedent...He is the first African-American to win primary in the history of the United States - his message of change is clear and he has "Oprah Power" behind his back.

[ryberg]

[roni]

Originally Posted by Opatije

This is historic precedent...He is the first African-American to win primary in the history of the United States - his message of change is clear and he has "Oprah Power" behind his back.

Let's all take moment to remember Shirley Chisolm

[diogeron]

Obama vs. McCain.
Prediction: McCain has a health scare at some point, however minor, and his age (72) becomes a major issue. If Giuliani wins, he won't wear well. Ask anybody who was in NYC when he was mayor.

Originally Posted by JEZ

Juliani vs Clinton.

Juliani wins in a very close vote.

[ryberg]

Originally Posted by roni

Let's all take moment to remember Shirley Chisolm

[roni]

Originally Posted by ryberg

[ryberg]

Originally Posted by roni

Steve

[roni]

Originally Posted by ryberg

Steve

I just poured myself a couple of ounces of a good Port to celebrate the caucus before retiring for the evening.

I guess I am glad you laughed, but Shirley's mention deserves better than that. You may be a bit too young to remember the courage and eloquence of Congresswoman Chisholm, but it would benefit anyone to familiarize themselves with her story.

I thought it was an entirely inappropriate response, but after thinking about it, I may have some inkling of where you may have been coming from.

[ryberg]

Originally Posted by roni

I just poured myself a couple of ounces of a good Port to celebrate the caucus before retiring for the evening.

I guess I am glad you laughed, but Shirley's mention deserves better than that. You may be a bit too young to remember the courage and eloquence of Congresswoman Chisholm, but it would benefit anyone to familiarize themselves with her story.

I thought it was an entirely inappropriate response, but after thinking about it, I may have some inkling of where you may have been coming from.

I'd say probably follow that thought, remembering my focus on spin doctoring and the context in general.

I know who Shirley Chisholm is (though I was of single-digit age at the time) and was not showing her any disrespect. It's the other tack I was taking.

And incidentally, happy new year to you and your wife. Hope 2008 results in some progress on your aforementioned single issue, for her sake and that of many others.

Steve

[roni]

from CNN's political ticker - if Obama can do the same think in New Hampshire (where independents can vote in either primary) , South Carolina and the majority of the Super Duper Tuesday states then he will be the clear choice for the Democratic nomination. That is a pretty big if, but by no means an impossible one.

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It isn’t just that Barack Obama won Iowa decisively last night over Hillary Clinton and John Edwards. It’s the way he won: by beating his opponents across a stunning demographic spectrum.

Obama won Democrats, Republicans and independents; men and women; and virtually every income bracket. People most worried about the Iraq war gave him their vote. So did voters most concerned about the state of the economy. And those whose top priority is fixing the nation’s health care system.

Among Republicans, Huckabee pulled off a similar showing. As expected, he won among evangelicals. But he also scored big with voters in every income bracket except for those earning over $100,000 a year, and among every age group.

The big questions as the campaigns descend on New Hampshire this morning: Can Obama convert his Iowa win into a similarly dominant Granite State showing? And we now know how Huckabee fares in a state where more than half the voters are evangelical. Can he make a similar showing in less-pious climes?

[sctx]

Originally Posted by roni

from CNN's political ticker - if Obama can do the same think in New Hampshire (where independents can vote in either primary) , South Carolina and the majority of the Super Duper Tuesday states then he will be the clear choice for the Democratic nomination. That is a pretty big if, but by no means an impossible one.

that would be way cool w/ me

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by sctx

that would be way cool w/ me

Me too!

[roni]

The funniest statement of the night was Romney talking about beating McCain and Giuliani in Iowa

Neither of them really contested Iowa or put much in the way of resources there.