USA Presidential Politics - 2008 - Page 4

Jacko · 01-24-2007

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Originally Posted by roni

Yes, a good one would have to. Gore was not a good presidential candidate the last time he ran, and will not be this time, if he runs - and he should not run.

Hmmmm....I remember the first business I had....didn't do very well.....but I learned a lot....it was much, much better the second time around...just sayin' that, thats all.....and Gore presently has no intentions of running....we shall see...

**sctx** · 01-24-2007

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Originally Posted by roni

my pet monkey Ralph could be the next president,

wow, you named it???

Jacko · 01-24-2007

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Originally Posted by roni

If Hilary wins the nomination, she will be the next president. She may well be too conservative for the liberal wing of the party, but she is electable. Republican strategists who say she is not are hoping to help defeat her in the primaries, because she is the candidate they most fear.

OTOH, if Bush keeps up his stuff and if Cheney is allowed to keep talking like he did in the Wolf Blitzer interview, my pet monkey Ralph could be the next president, as long as he is a Democrat.

She's not too conservative for you, right?

roni · 01-24-2007

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Originally Posted by Jacko

She's not too conservative for you, right?

I do not have a favorite yet - though John Edwards I like - but he is probably to liberal for most.
I'll wait till after the convention, other than voting. I usually don't like to spend my little bit of contribution money during the primary.

roni · 01-24-2007

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Originally Posted by sctx

wow, you named it???

Winston tastes good....

Jacko · 01-24-2007

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Originally Posted by roni

I do not have a favorite yet - though John Edwards I like - but he is probably to liberal for most.
I'll wait till after the convention, other than voting. I usually don't like to spend my little bit of contribution money during the primary.

So you really ARE of the same opinion as me?....ANY Democrat (or Ralph) who wins the nomination, wins the presidency!

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Originally Posted by roni

If Hilary gets the nomination, she will be our next president.

That is my call.

roni · 01-24-2007

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Originally Posted by Jacko

So you really ARE of the same opinion as me?....ANY Democrat (or Ralph) who wins the nomination, wins the presidency!

It is a long time till the election. While that may seem true today, it could change several times between now and election day.

Jacko · 01-24-2007

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Originally Posted by roni

It is a long time till the election. While that may seem true today, it could change several times between now and election day.

Republican's getting better seems like a good thing to me at this point......g'nite roni.

yoonohoo · 01-24-2007

Hillary too conservative????? YIKES!!!! That's news to me. But I must admit I tend to be pretty far right wing on most things. This will be a very interesting election season this time around. You can already see many in the Republican party putting some distance between themselves and the Pres. Which from a strategic point of view is likely a good thing given the current ratings. However the thing that frustrates me the most is the practice of moving to the center during election season in order to be palitable to the most voters as possible. I encourage everyone to spend more time on researching the record of candidates rather than watch the useless debates. The debates to me only prove whether the person can articulate their thinly veiled empty promises that they know they really won't keep. Look at the voting record.
How did they vote on this matter and that matter...not who did they screw, what did their spouse do back in the day, did they inhale or not etc..... you get the point. That was one quality I liked about Ross Perot (no I didn't vote for him) He said what he believed and he stuck to it from what I can remember.

**sctx** · 01-24-2007

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Originally Posted by yoonohoo

That was one quality I liked about Ross Perot (no I didn't vote for him) He said what he believed and he stuck to it from what I can remember.

yep, he laid it out there...... ...I voted for him.......and on the plus side, he was freakin hilarious.......he would have been frustrated when he figured out he couldn't just fire 90% of Congress for not doing their job though........but damn, it woulda been sweet to see all those heads rolling if he could

Oso de Yogui · 01-24-2007

[quote=roni]If Hilary wins the nomination, she will be the next president. She may well be too conservative for the liberal wing of the party, but she is electable. Republican strategists who say she is not are hoping to help defeat her in the primaries, because she is the candidate they most fear.

Hillary's handlers have molded the more conservative appearance. It's all an illusion. Liberal Dems know the real Hillary and will vote for her as will the moderate and full blown conservatives of the party. Conservative 'Phants will not vote for a centrist or slightly liberal candidate. Anyone heard from Kinky lately!??
It's early, but right now I agree with Jacko that the Dems would have to lose this election; barring Osama coming out of the mountains and winning the Nobel Peace prize.

MWC · 01-25-2007

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Originally Posted by RonH

My personal opinion is the guy that is not running, and that is Evan Bayh. Ex-Gov of Ind, and current senator. Very moderate democrat. Plus, he agrees with me about this war. We should have went after osama instead going to iraq. His policies lean toward the liberal on domestic (with taxes staying somewhat conservative) that I don't have enough disagreement with to argue. My point here is we are at a crossroads, and we don't have the very best people running for president. Maybe we should make congress vote in another amendment to where we "The People" can vote in a president,(ie. Clinton-not Hillary). I just think we have leaders out there that don't want to put up with media bias BS

I was stunned when he said he wasn't running for Pres in 2008. I, too, thought he was a very attractive candidate for all the reasons you listed; plus he has both legislative and executive experience. Not bad on the eyes, either.
I wonder if he is just staying out of the early scrum, and may jump in later?

MWC · 01-25-2007

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Originally Posted by sctx

yep, he laid it out there...... ...I voted for him.......and on the plus side, he was freakin hilarious.......he would have been frustrated when he figured out he couldn't just fire 90% of Congress for not doing their job though........but damn, it woulda been sweet to see all those heads rolling if he could

Whatever happened to him?

MWC · 01-25-2007

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Originally Posted by roni

Yes, a good one would have to. Gore was not a good presidential candidate the last time he ran, and will not be this time, if he runs - and he should not run.

You are SO right. I have seen him on the stump, and he is, without a doubt, the WORST retail politician I have ever seen!

If he is statesmanlike in status now, that is all a media creation.

itsmysecondtime · 01-25-2007

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Originally Posted by Jacko

I am still sticking to the Inconvenient long shot for a late draft.....

Heck the time is right for someone along the likes of Maine Sen. Ed Muskie, Humphrey 's running mate in 1968. Someone with such vigorous environmental caliber; it is unfortunate the Muskie fellow was so ahead of the curb back then.

So you may have a plausible point Jacko, we really need the Inconvenient author at this stage.

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01-24-2007	#54 (permalink)
yoonohoo toe in water Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Omak, Washington Posts: 51	Hillary too conservative????? YIKES!!!! That's news to me. But I must admit I tend to be pretty far right wing on most things. This will be a very interesting election season this time around. You can already see many in the Republican party putting some distance between themselves and the Pres. Which from a strategic point of view is likely a good thing given the current ratings. However the thing that frustrates me the most is the practice of moving to the center during election season in order to be palitable to the most voters as possible. I encourage everyone to spend more time on researching the record of candidates rather than watch the useless debates. The debates to me only prove whether the person can articulate their thinly veiled empty promises that they know they really won't keep. Look at the voting record. How did they vote on this matter and that matter...not who did they screw, what did their spouse do back in the day, did they inhale or not etc..... you get the point. That was one quality I liked about Ross Perot (no I didn't vote for him) He said what he believed and he stuck to it from what I can remember.

01-24-2007	#56 (permalink)
Oso de Yogui way into it Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Land of Pleasant Living, Southern MD Posts: 188	[quote=roni]If Hilary wins the nomination, she will be the next president. She may well be too conservative for the liberal wing of the party, but she is electable. Republican strategists who say she is not are hoping to help defeat her in the primaries, because she is the candidate they most fear. Hillary's handlers have molded the more conservative appearance. It's all an illusion. Liberal Dems know the real Hillary and will vote for her as will the moderate and full blown conservatives of the party. Conservative 'Phants will not vote for a centrist or slightly liberal candidate. Anyone heard from Kinky lately!?? It's early, but right now I agree with Jacko that the Dems would have to lose this election; barring Osama coming out of the mountains and winning the Nobel Peace prize.

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