USA Presidential Politics - 2008

[pslucky]

Originally Posted by Jacko

ahem......

He's a loaded lawyer, there's enough to go around.

[StewartG]

Originally Posted by Jacko

ahem......

Dude - remember? You're on retainer!

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by pslucky

He's a loaded lawyer, there's enough to go around.

I must say...I have seen him loaded!

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by StewartG

Dude - remember? You're on retainer!

Originally Posted by Jacko

I must say...I have seen him loaded!

.....................and its NOT always a pretty sight!

(retainer, eh?)

[roni]

Originally Posted by Jacko

Because he has maintained his lead...both in NC and nationally. (I was actually speaking about his national lead when I wrote that)

NC will help Obama....A lot.

You do recognize the similarities to PA., yes?

Originally Posted by ryberg

Simple faulty reasonng to say the race is tightening,

Steve

Here is Jacko's definition of maintaining one's lead and Ryberg's definition of the race not tightening



And a few weeks later, same graph with the updated numbers

[Jacko]

Allow me to try again to clarify all of this for your roni...I stated clearly that I was speaking of definition 2 in regards to the national lead that Obama maintains....later, I was also speaking (just for fun, just for you) using definition number 5 to demonstrate his maintenance of his NC lead.....(that is, he has successfully defended his lead) (see below)


Despite all that, on numerous occasions, I likened the comparison to Hillary in Pa so that you might recognize that I fully realize that Obama has lost ground in NC, just as Hillary did in Pa...but you chose not to listen to that while ramrodding your tired old point over and over again in a tired attempt at "being right" at all costs...

So why did you post this?...and what kind of fella exactly do you have me figgered for, roni? Why do you repeat all this crap ad nauseum, when you already knew that I acknowledged the narrowing of the NC poll gap by the very fact that I compared it to Hillary in Pa.? You are really, really confusing me here, roni...it seems like you are beating a very dead horse and your vague inferences of others qualities, capabilities or character are not kind to you.

Originally Posted by roni

I never figgered you for that kind of fella, Mr. Jacko, Sir.



Look at the graph and tell me that looks like he has not lost significant ground in North Carolina. Just tell me that.

main·tain (mn-tn)
tr.v. main·tained, main·tain·ing, main·tains
1. To keep up or carry on; continue: maintain good relations.
2. To keep in an existing state; preserve or retain: maintain one's composure.
3. To keep in a condition of good repair or efficiency: maintain two cars.
4.
a. To provide for; support: maintain a family.
b. To keep in existence; sustain: enough food to maintain life.
5. To defend or hold against criticism or attack: maintained his stand on taxes.
6. To declare to be true; affirm: maintained her innocence.
7. To adhere or conform to; keep: maintain a busy schedule.

[roni]

Well Jacko,

You can dish out not credible insults and you can maintain that Obama has maintained his lead when, in fact, it has been cut in half.

You can do anything you want to.

So go on ahead and keep on doing it

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by roni

Well Jacko,

You can dish out not credible insults and you can maintain that Obama has maintained his lead when, in fact, it has been cut in half.

You can do anything you want to.

So go on ahead and keep on doing it

Thanks, roni...I was thinking the very same thing about you....

[roni]

Originally Posted by Jacko

Thanks, roni...I was thinking the very same thing about you....

Sounds like a mutual admiration society

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by roni

Sounds like a mutual admiration society

I don't think I would go quite that far.....

[roni]

Originally Posted by Jacko

I don't think I would go quite that far.....

People who have met both of us have told me they think you and I would like each other very much.

I respect their opinion.

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by roni

People who have met both of us have told me they think you and I would like each other very much.

I respect their opinion.

I respect their opinion as well...it may well be the nature of the medium, and the way you use it, in these types of threads, that causes me such great annoyance at your approach.

[roni]

Originally Posted by Jacko

I respect their opinion as well...it may well be the nature of the medium, and the way you use it, in these types of threads, that causes me such great annoyance at your approach.

Must be the way I use it

[ryberg]

I think I'll just keep playing with my extended metaphor here, and leave you boys to your argument, because I forgot a key point.

Imagine that same scenario, with a team playing better but only in the final couple of minutes when already down by several scores, and the announcers ignoring that fact and the scoreboard and just focusing on the team's recent improvement, all the while wringing their hands and talking like it's unclear who will win.

That kind of coverage would be idiotic. It would be dishonest, manipulative with respect to people tuning in to see how things are going, what the results are. It would be the equivalent of lying.

And NOW imagine that the losing team claimed, despite all this, that those announcers were biased against them in that coverage!

Ridiculous.

Welcome to the Democratic Party's campaign for the nomination for the presidency in 2008, and press coverage of said same.

Steve

[ryberg]

Tee-hee again: CBS/NYT tracking over last 3 days shows Obama over Clinton by 12, 50-38%, 4 points higher than they had him a week ago.

I mean if you're into polls and think they mean something, you know.



Steve