USA Presidential Politics - 2008

[jtm1631]

Originally Posted by RonH

I just walked away from the CNN on the tv. To me it looks like Indiana had a lot more voters than NC. It seems to me that NC didn't have that many "popular votes" than Indiana. Overall I think Hillary beat Obama in both states. Just look at the numbers overall and get back to me.

If you are stating that combining both the total votes for Clinton from Indiana and NC vs. the total votes for Obama from Indiana and NC would indicate Clinton had more overall votes, you would be incorrect.

Consider the numbers looked at and Clinton the loser. Time for Clinton to get out of the way and give her full support to Obama the Democratic nominee.

There is no reason for Clinton to continue the "fight". We caught her red 3 on yellow 7 and we won't put up with it.

[RonH]

Originally Posted by ryberg

Maybe I'm foolish or naive, but I'm gonna have to stick by my prediction a few days ago that she either withdraws or is pushed out in the very near future. Axelrod makes a good point and it can be extended, too: even if she wins IN (as it seems she will do), she will if this keeps up finish the day farther behind in both pledged delegates and the popular vote than she was when she started it. How does that justify continuing?

Steve

Steve, I don't disagree with you an alot of topics. But... from where I'm standing, Hillary is winning the popular vote overall in both states when one totals them up. Of course this is as we are typing. This may change in a few hours. I just love those North Carolinains on here screaming they have made a difference. I look at the "CNN" polls and they say that Indiana has a HUGE!! difference in the number of voters!

[ryberg]

Over 50% now in in IN -- -- and her lead has dropped to 8...

Steve

[Jacko]

Exit polls say 1/2 of Clinton voters say they would not support Obama in the general election...poor losers?

[roni]

The Democratic party needs both these candidates in order to win in November.

They don't need them both on the ticket, but they need both of them enthusiastically supporting the ticket.

Those of you who are Democrats would do well to stop dissing Hillary and engaging in silly attacks. Steve is excused as he is not a Democrat.

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by RonH

Steve, I don't disagree with you an alot of topics. But... from where I'm standing, Hillary is winning the popular vote overall in both states when one totals them up. Of course this is as we are typing. This may change in a few hours. I just love those North Carolinains on here screaming they have made a difference. I look at the "CNN" polls and they say that Indiana has a HUGE!! difference in the number of voters!

You should pay more attention about why they have not called the race...Northwest Indiana (Chicago media market), Indianapolis (Obama country) etc......I just love those Ron's that make these strange predictions all the time and then change those predictions as reality filters in.....

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by roni

The Democratic party needs both these candidates in order to win in November.

They don't need them both on the ticket, but they need both of them enthusiastically supporting the ticket.

Those of you who are Democrats would do well to stop dissing Hillary and engaging in silly attacks. Steve is excused as he is not a Democrat.

After all the posts you have posted against Obama..you want the Obama side to quit dissing Hillary? How about you listen to your own good advice, roni?


Sheesh,...you just kill me.....

[RonH]

Originally Posted by Jacko

Exit polls say 1/2 of Clinton voters say they would not support Obama in the general election...poor losers?

Is that overall? Looks like you may have your way Jacko. We have another Repub for President.

[jtm1631]

Originally Posted by RonH

Steve, I don't disagree with you an alot of topics. But... from where I'm standing, Hillary is winning the popular vote overall in both states when one totals them up. Of course this is as we are typing. This may change in a few hours. I just love those North Carolinains on here screaming they have made a difference. I look at the "CNN" polls and they say that Indiana has a HUGE!! difference in the number of voters!

According to the online CNN numbers, Obama has the lead in total votes when combining Indiana and NC.
............Obama.........Clinton
NC.........303,8852.........168,937
Indiana 293,458 ...........251,053

Total.........597,310.........419,990

That didn't format properly but bottom line is Obama with 597k votes and clinton with 419k

[RonH]

Originally Posted by Jacko

You should pay more attention about why they have not called the race...Northwest Indiana (Chicago media market), Indianapolis (Obama country) etc......I just love those Ron's that make these strange predictions all the time and then change those predictions as reality filters in.....

Jacko, I'm only going by what I see on the "CNN BOOBTUBE". Those numbers add up to a popular vote for Hillary.

[roni]

Originally Posted by Jacko

After all the posts you have posted against Obama..you want the Obama side to quit dissing Hillary? How about you listen to your own good advice, roni?


Sheesh,...you just kill me.....

I have not attacked Obama's character - not that I remember anyway.

As to your last statement - you are still alive, right

[jtm1631]

Originally Posted by roni

The Democratic party needs both these candidates in order to win in November.

They don't need them both on the ticket, but they need both of them enthusiastically supporting the ticket.

Those of you who are Democrats would do well to stop dissing Hillary and engaging in silly attacks. Steve is excused as he is not a Democrat.

If you consider Hillary Clinton the epitome of a "Democrat", than count me out as well.

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by RonH

Jacko, I'm only going by what I see on the "CNN BOOBTUBE". Those numbers add up to a popular vote for Hillary.

Fine, but that is meaningless at this point, isn't it?...it will become more meaningful as the night goes on....you know..after they start getting votes in from the predicted heavily favored Obama locations Indianapolis, Gary and Northwest Indiana (Chicago media market)....

[roni]

Originally Posted by jtm1631

If you consider Hillary Clinton the epitome of a "Democrat", than count me out as well.

Steve wrote and said he withdrew his Democratic registration in his state. That is the only reason I wrote that. Are you still a registered Democrat?

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by roni

I have not attacked Obama's character - not that I remember anyway.

As to your last statement - you are still alive, right

I believe your posts have attacked his character...it might as well be you.....I do not believe I have personally attacked Hillary's character..I am certain that my posts have done that...so no need to claim righteousness about dissing...you're still dissin' man...fess up and face it.