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Abortion rights group NARAL endorses Obama:
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Must be a rotating position, this lying with the numbers thing, because McAuliffe seems to have handed off to Karen Wasserman Schultz of FL, who was first on The NewsHour and then on CNN with John King saying that Clinton had as of last night taken the lead in the popular vote.
Course you only get there by counting FL & MI but simultaneously ignoring IA, NV, ME & WA, but then I guess the motivation to count every vote again extends only to every vote that is good for you. John King called her on it and she naturally avoided anything resembling an answer to the question. How good is it for Democrats at this point to have a variety of Clinton hench(wo)men on the national TV circuits arguing that Obama is not the legitimate leader in this campaign? 'Cause maybe it's just me, but that seems to undercut his credibility in the eyes of the (I believe) many Americans who may well not recognize these claims as lies... Steve |
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From RCP
Popular Vote Count Popular Vote Total 16,104,613 49.3% 15,511,003 47.5% Obama +593,610 +1.8% Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* 16,438,697 49.3% 15,734,865 47.2% Obama +703,832 +2.1% Popular Vote (w/FL) 16,680,827 48.4% 16,381,989 47.6% Obama +298,838 +0.8% Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* 17,014,911 48.5% 16,605,851 47.3% Obama +409,060 +1.2% Popular Vote (w/FL & MI)** 16,680,827 47.6% 16,710,298 47.7% Clinton +29,471 +0.08% Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* 17,014,911 47.7% 16,934,160 47.5% Obama +80,751 +0.22% *(Iowa, Nevada, Washington & Maine Have Not Released Popular Vote Totals. RealClearPolitics has estimated the popular vote totals for Senator Obama and Clinton in these four states. RCP uses the WA Caucus results from February 9 in this estimate because the Caucuses on February 9 were the “official” contest recognized by the DNC to determine delegates to the Democratic convention. The estimate from these four Caucus states where there are not official popular vote numbers increases Senator Obama’s popular vote margin by 110,224. This number would be about 50,000 less if the Washington primary results from February 19th were used instead of the Washington Caucus results.) **(Senator Obama was not on the Michigan Ballot and thus received zero votes. Uncommitted was on the ballot and received 238,168 votes as compared to 328,309 for Senator Clinton.) Last edited by Jacko : 05-14-2008 at 10:10 PM. |
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Good morning, everyone.
Insomnia. ![]() If you're like me, you occasionally skip through comments posted at the end of each article on some sites. And if you're like me, you wonder at such times what some people carry between their ears. To wit: I was bored enough to look at this article this morning, and to scroll downward a bit, and to see such misinformation from a character named Balrog (who must have gotten home early from the D&D session or something) to the effect that Edwards is a superdelegate (misinformation according to DemConWatch, at least), and then to go farther down, where I discovered the illuminating comments of the oddly named LibsWarnedU, in his/her inimitable style. Comments such as Quote:
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Or indeed if one should laugh or cry about such people behaving in this way in this country and in this age. As more racist aspects of our country have surfaced over the course of this marathon campaign, I have begun to wonder if a position parallel to my late father-in-law's might not be accurate: he thought Fox would be good for Mexico if for no other reason than that the country should have a non-PRI president and break that stranglehold that had lasted a (by comparison, short) 70 years or so, even if he didn't in other ways turn out to be effective in office. Some Americans, it appears, need to have a black president, and possibly more than the country needs any president to help resolve its current difficulties. (And I harbor no doubt that the argument would be any weaker if you replaced black with female in that sentence, just for the record.) Thankfully some keep their wits about them and respond appropriately in cases where I'd be more likely to throw things. Such a one we find in The Elitist, in the given discussion: Quote:
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Wow, is this photo ever dying for a caption contest!
![]() (Oriiginally appeared on Ben Smith's blog at Politico with the caption, "Obama visits a Chrysler plant in Sterling Heights, Michigan.") Knock yourselves out! And let's keep it at least moderately clean, folks! Steve |
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I was thinking something like, "The Rambis look really does have something on the Worthy style." But maybe that's a stretch...
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George Bush, in a speech this morning to the Knesset in Jerusalem, compared Barack Obama's willingness to engage in diplomacy with Iran to Neville Chamberlin's appeasement of Nazi Germany.
Even Pat Buchannan called it outrageous. Watch it here. MSNBC - Breaking News, Weather, Business, Health, Entertainment, Sports, Politics, Travel, Science, Technology, Local, US & World News - msnbc.com Front Page |
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So I guess those were McCain's attempts at better ideas and policies! ![]() Steve |
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Biden for VP, anyone?
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Hey, another photo in need of a captioning contest!
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