USA Presidential Politics - 2008

[roni]

Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame are doing a nice Hillary commercial in Oregon.

[ryberg]

Isn't Nike an Oregon company?







Steve

[roni]

Originally Posted by ryberg

Isn't Nike an Oregon company?

Steve

Headquartered in Oregon, it is a multinational third-world sweatshop labor using company. University of Oregon, whose president at the time was a former Republican Governor of Oregon, turned down some of Nike's founder's millions for a time due to that.

Yes they did

[ryberg]

Well then I guess it's a good thing that those shoes were just created by a guy not associated with Nike, rather than being some new official product or something!

Steve

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by ryberg

Well then I guess it's a good thing that those shoes were just created by a guy not associated with Nike, rather than being some new official product or something!

Steve

You two sure entertain me....

[ryberg]

Now, now... don't you start trying to pour your silly gasoline onto a (non-)fire, here, Jacko. It was just something funny I saw and posted, and Roni just clarified some important concerns about Nike, and I just clarified that what I posted was not officially connected to them. I believe the situation is entirely fine.

And kinda sweet lookin' shoes, ain't they?

Steve

[Heather]

Originally Posted by ryberg

And kinda sweet lookin' shoes, ain't they?

Steve

Ah, finally something I'm qualified to post about on this thread.

No, Steve, those are not sweet lookin' shoes. They are hideous, possibly some of the most hideous shoes I've ever seen.

[ryberg]

I like the red and blue laces. Nice touch.

Steve

[roni]

Just put my ballot in the mailbox. Has to arrive at country clerk's office by 8 pm on Tuesday.

No problem.

So as close of day on Thursday, returned ballots as % of total mailed out = 26%

Four years ago at the same point in the primary election, it was 20%

A lot of people take their ballots by a collection point on Tuesday.

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by Heather

Ah, finally something I'm qualified to post about on this thread.

No, Steve, those are not sweet lookin' shoes. They are hideous, possibly some of the most hideous shoes I've ever seen.

We're supposed to be qualified before posting????

Oh no!!!

[ryberg]

Originally Posted by Jacko

We're supposed to be qualified before posting????

Oh no!!!

Steve

[ryberg]

In case this point is still at issue, or whatever...

Florida, Michigan cannot save Clinton

From AP

WASHINGTON – Michigan and Florida alone can't save Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign.

Interviews with those considering how to handle the two states' banished convention delegates found little interest in the former first lady's best-case scenario. Her position, part of a formidable comeback challenge, is that all the delegates be seated in accordance with their disputed primaries.

Even if they were, it wouldn't erase Barack Obama's growing lead in delegates.

The Democratic Party's Rules and Bylaws Committee, a 30-member panel charged with interpreting and enforcing party rules, is to meet May 31 to consider how to handle Michigan and Florida's 368 delegates . . .

The Associated Press interviewed a third of the panel members and several other Democrats involved in the negotiations and found widespread agreement that the states must be punished for stepping out of line. If not, many members say, other states will do the same thing in four years.

"We certainly want to be fair to both candidates, and we want to be sure that we are fair to the 48 states who abided by the rules," said Democratic National Committee Secretary Alice Germond, a panel member unaligned with either candidate. "We don't want absolute chaos for 2012"...

It goes on to say that Clinton has formally repeated her "count every vote" argument and to discuss options for Obama, including generous ones to suggest, given his lead at this point.

One wonders how a such a generous offer on his part wrt to these states, in exchange for a commitment by her not to pressure him for the VP slot, might play. One might in such a way be able to test the level of commitment to count every vote, in that way.

Steve

[ryberg]

Also an entertaining bit from Ben Smith's blog, submitted by a guy in Co Springs, apparently from his iPhone:

One lovely feature of this endless (though now basically over) primary is the national tour, the introduction to events like, today, the Colorado Democratic Convention in Colorado Springs.

The reader who sent in this photo

writes from his iPhone:

There are 10,000 Democrats here today in Colorado Springs, the most conservative city in Colorado. As one person I overheard say, "We're in the lions' den."

Lots of talk about how the eyes of the nation will soon be on Denver during the national convention and turning Colorado blue in the general election.

Terry McAuliffe is here too. He says the party will be united but then cites Hillary as having a lead in the popular vote, which draws loud boos from the majority of the crowd. It takes a few minutes for the crowd to stop booing. Everyone kisses and makes up as McAuliffe says to work hard for your prospective candidates and then vote Democrat no matter who it is.

Here's to hoping my new home state swings the other way, this November.

Steve

[horizon200]

...and then vote Democrat no matter who it is

That sort of thinking I just can't understand. I would prefer to have people vote for the person rather than the party. But that's just me living in that silly perfect world I often find myself in!

[roni]

Originally Posted by horizon200

That sort of thinking I just can't understand. I would prefer to have people vote for the person rather than the party. But that's just me living in that silly perfect world I often find myself in!

Depends on the extent to which they agree with the party's platform, I guess.