USA Presidential Politics - 2008

[TAPPY]

Originally Posted by woodman

This is so apporiate for a political thread.

How to skin a hog !!! yep just the right topic for this kind of thread !!

Got any pictures ???

[woodman]

Originally Posted by TAPPY

How to skin a hog !!! yep just the right topic for this kind of thread !!

Got any pictures ???

Belive me you don't want to see.

[ryberg]

Originally Posted by ryberg

I'm sort of still waiting to see how they [= the candidates] do over the long haul still left, as I expect we're in for some fireworks and scandals and foot in mouth incidents and as yet unrevealed stories and so forth.

Guess what?

Clinton, Edwards caught on open mic

At the conclusion of the [NAACP convention] forum, Edwards approached Clinton on stage to talk, and the two expressed frustration over the number of candidates in the debate forum and the time allotted for answers.

While Clinton and Edwards did not specifically mention any candidate by name, Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, posted a scathing statement on his website condemning his two rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination.

“Candidates, no matter how important or influential they perceive themselves to be, do not have and should not have the power to determine who is allowed to speak to the American public and who is not,” Kucinich said. “Imperial candidates are as repugnant to the American people and to our Democracy as an imperial President.”

Ain't much, all in all, but think how bad it could have been.

Sorry, should have noted that a related article on the content of the forum itself also appears here. No awards for guessing which candidate got the warmest response at this particular forum.

Steve

[melliedee]

This makes Hillary and Edwards look extremely bad, like the popular kids at the prom complaining about the freaks being allowed to attend. Kuchinich was right to object. I like the guy better everyday.

They are playing the "overheard" audio over and over on CNN. Why these folks don't realize they're on record is a mystery to me?

[woodman]

Originally Posted by ryberg

Guess what?

Ain't much, all in all, but think how bad it could have been.

Sorry, should have noted that a related article on the content of the forum itself also appears here. No awards for guessing which candidate got the warmest response at this particular forum.

Steve

You have to stop quoteing yourself ryberg.

[ryberg]

Originally Posted by woodman

You have to stop quoteing yourself ryberg.

Just seemed too timely, you know.

I think Melliedee is right.

I find I often agree with Melliedee, in fact.

Steve

[Just Lucky]

Originally Posted by sctx

well,obviously you like Tom more than you like me because I presented that idea a couple of times yesterday

Ya, but you ain't nice like NiceTom is.

[Just Lucky]

“Imperial candidates are as repugnant to the American people and to our Democracy as an imperial President.”

That's right! I have hope yet that the people of this country will take control of the government.

Did anyone see Bill Moyers show tonight? It was primarily about restoring the Constitutional balance between Congress and the President.

[ryberg]

Originally Posted by Just Lucky

That's right. I have hope yet that the people of this country will take control of the government.

Did anyone see Bill Moyers show tonight? It was primarily about restoring the Constitutional balance between Congress and the President.

Sounds interesting. Looks like you're talking about this, no?

"The founding fathers expected an executive who tried to overreach and expected the executive would be hampered and curtailed by the legislative branch... They [Congress] have basically renounced — walked away from their responsibility to oversee and check." — Bruce Fein

"On January 20th, 2009, if George Bush and Dick Cheney are not appropriately held to account this Administration will hand off a toolbox with more powers than any President has ever had, more powers than the founders could have imagined. And that box may be handed to Hillary Clinton or it may be handed to Mitt Romney or Barack Obama or someone else. But whoever gets it, one of the things we know about power is that people don't give away the tools." — John Nichols

Steve

[Just Lucky]

Originally Posted by ryberg

Sounds interesting. Looks like you're talking about this, no?

Steve

Yes that's it. It was much less threatening to the administration than the website makes it sound. While impeachment is mentioned, the gist of it was more about the Constitutional balance of powers and the other ways Congress could reclaim powers from the executive. Worth watching imo.

[melliedee]

Originally Posted by Just Lucky

Yes that's it. It was much less threatening to the administration than the website makes it sound. While impeachment is mentioned, the gist of it was more about the Constitutional balance of powers and the other ways Congress could reclaim powers from the executive. Worth watching imo.

Might be a dumb question: but can Congress actually end the war? I mean, constitutionally, do they have the power?

I fear this quagmire will get much, much worse...

[woodman]

Originally Posted by melliedee

Might be a dumb question: but can Congress actually end the war? I mean, constitutionally, do they have the power?

I fear this quagmire will get much, much worse...

Let's don't start a war and then leave a house of cards behind.Wars are'nt pretty,we should stop pretending like they are.

[StewartG]

Originally Posted by ryberg

Guess what?

Ain't much, all in all, but think how bad it could have been.

Sorry, should have noted that a related article on the content of the forum itself also appears here. No awards for guessing which candidate got the warmest response at this particular forum.

Steve

And WHAT exactly does this have to do with ketchup and school lunches?

[sctx]

Originally Posted by StewartG

And WHAT exactly does this have to do with ketchup and school lunches?

good to see you stayin focused

[StewartG]

Originally Posted by sctx

good to see you stayin focused

Who are you again?

And why are you eating my grilled cheese sandwich?