Christ's tomb found?

TimHorton · 02-25-2007

http://www.thestar.com/Unassigned/article/185534

Time to re-read "The DaVinci Code?"

Barb&Meg · 02-25-2007

this is very interesting. I think it is entirely plausbile that Jesus was married and had children. If he was to experience life and understand it in terms of us, so that he could die for our sins, having his own children and family, etc., makes sense.

**sctx** · 02-25-2007

I smell Geraldo

Babaloo · 02-25-2007

DNA?
dontcha have to have something to compare it to?
like....other identifiable DNA?

timbit · 02-25-2007

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DNA?
dontcha have to have something to compare it to?
like....other identifiable DNA?

That is exactly what I was thinking.

Seakony · 02-25-2007

very Interesting. I can say this..about common names. One guy in the article said it was a 600 to one longshot...I guess he never did genealogy in southern Italy. I ran across many repetitions of names and had to dig deeper to make sure I had the right ancestors. Many families back then and still today name their children after parents and siblings. In my family today, I have two sets of Joes and Mary's that are married to each other.

I am always open to hear more of this research. It would also be interesting to test the DNA on the Shroud of Turin to see if there is a match.
The Bible preaches that Jesus rose from the dead then ascended into heaven. Of course he would not really need his body in heaven and may have returned it back to earth. The scriptures have been translated so many times and many words could have had more than one meaning.

timbit · 02-25-2007

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Originally Posted by Seakony

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It would also be interesting to test the DNA on the Shroud of Turin to see if there is a match.

Wow---were you reading my mind?

Seakony · 02-25-2007

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Originally Posted by timbit

Wow---were you reading my mind?

Did you ever see the Documentary about the Shroud? There was alot of evidence to make it very possible. I think it was one of those "In Search Of" shows that used to be on a while back.

timbit · 02-25-2007

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Originally Posted by Seakony

Did you ever see the Documentary about the Shroud? There was alot of evidence to make it very possible. I think it was one of those "In Search Of" shows that used to be on a while back.

No. I didn't. Would really be intersted to see it though.
I will google to see if it has been on here in Canada.

ThrushJockey · 02-26-2007

FYI - this is part of an article that I came across.

In 1996, when the BBC aired a short documentary on the same subject, archaeologists challenged the claims. Amos Kloner, the first archaeologist to examine the site, said the idea fails to hold up by archaeological standards but makes for profitable television.

"They just want to get money for it," Kloner said.

The claims have raised the ire of Christian leaders in the Holy Land.

"The historical, religious and archaeological evidence show that the place where Christ was buried is the Church of the Resurrection," said Attallah Hana, a Greek Orthodox clergyman in Jerusalem. The documentary, he said, "contradicts the religious principles and the historic and spiritual principles that we hold tightly to."

Stephen Pfann, a biblical scholar at the University of the Holy Land in Jerusalem who was interviewed in the documentary, said the film's hypothesis holds little weight.

"I don't think that Christians are going to buy into this," Pfann said. "But skeptics, in general, would like to see something that pokes holes into the story that so many people hold dear."

"How possible is it?" Pfann said. "On a scale of one through 10 — 10 being completely possible — it's probably a one, maybe a one and a half."

Pfann is even unsure that the name "Jesus" on the caskets was read correctly. He thinks it's more likely the name "Hanun."

Kloner also said the filmmakers' assertions are false.

"It was an ordinary middle-class Jerusalem burial cave," Kloner said. "The names on the caskets are the most common names found among Jews at the time."

Archaeologists also balk at the filmmaker's claim that the James Ossuary — the center of a famous antiquities fraud in Israel — might have originated from the same cave. In 2005, Israel charged five suspects with forgery in connection with the infamous bone box.

"I don't think the James Ossuary came from the same cave," said Dan Bahat, an archaeologist at Bar-Ilan University. "If it were found there, the man who made the forgery would have taken something better. He would have taken Jesus."

Although the documentary makers claim to have found the tomb of Jesus, the British Broadcasting Corporation beat them to the punch by 11 years.

Osnat Goaz, a spokeswoman for the Israeli government agency responsible for archaeology, declined to comment before the documentary was aired.

StephenB · 02-26-2007

The wreckage from Roswell is in my basement.....

dartay · 02-26-2007

And the religious react.......

The last line of the article is telling. They are refuting before having seen the documentary.

http://http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20...jesus_s_burial

PlayadelSoul · 02-26-2007

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The wreckage from Roswell is in my basement.....

Jimmy Hoffa is in the foundation of my old house in the States. Amelia Earhart lives in my spare bedroom, as well.

dartay · 02-26-2007

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Jimmy Hoffa is in the foundation of my old house in the States. Amelia Earhart lives in my spare bedroom, as well.

I wish that were the case for me, I'd sell tickets, make a fortune and move to Mexico - legally of course

**Mindbender** · 02-26-2007

Pop the dna in an egg, cook for 9 months and see what you get...

It'd make a great movie - copyright 2007.

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ThrushJockey añejo Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,778	FYI - this is part of an article that I came across. In 1996, when the BBC aired a short documentary on the same subject, archaeologists challenged the claims. Amos Kloner, the first archaeologist to examine the site, said the idea fails to hold up by archaeological standards but makes for profitable television. "They just want to get money for it," Kloner said. The claims have raised the ire of Christian leaders in the Holy Land. "The historical, religious and archaeological evidence show that the place where Christ was buried is the Church of the Resurrection," said Attallah Hana, a Greek Orthodox clergyman in Jerusalem. The documentary, he said, "contradicts the religious principles and the historic and spiritual principles that we hold tightly to." Stephen Pfann, a biblical scholar at the University of the Holy Land in Jerusalem who was interviewed in the documentary, said the film's hypothesis holds little weight. "I don't think that Christians are going to buy into this," Pfann said. "But skeptics, in general, would like to see something that pokes holes into the story that so many people hold dear." "How possible is it?" Pfann said. "On a scale of one through 10 — 10 being completely possible — it's probably a one, maybe a one and a half." Pfann is even unsure that the name "Jesus" on the caskets was read correctly. He thinks it's more likely the name "Hanun." Kloner also said the filmmakers' assertions are false. "It was an ordinary middle-class Jerusalem burial cave," Kloner said. "The names on the caskets are the most common names found among Jews at the time." Archaeologists also balk at the filmmaker's claim that the James Ossuary — the center of a famous antiquities fraud in Israel — might have originated from the same cave. In 2005, Israel charged five suspects with forgery in connection with the infamous bone box. "I don't think the James Ossuary came from the same cave," said Dan Bahat, an archaeologist at Bar-Ilan University. "If it were found there, the man who made the forgery would have taken something better. He would have taken Jesus." Although the documentary makers claim to have found the tomb of Jesus, the British Broadcasting Corporation beat them to the punch by 11 years. Osnat Goaz, a spokeswoman for the Israeli government agency responsible for archaeology, declined to comment before the documentary was aired. __________________ I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day. (Frank Sinatra)

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02-25-2007	#2 (permalink)
Barb&Meg reposado Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 1,000	this is very interesting. I think it is entirely plausbile that Jesus was married and had children. If he was to experience life and understand it in terms of us, so that he could die for our sins, having his own children and family, etc., makes sense.

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sctx political anarchist Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Body in San Marcos Tx....Tankah in my mind Posts: 27,795	I smell Geraldo

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Babaloo añejo Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Paamul, Q Roo Mexico Posts: 10,825	DNA? dontcha have to have something to compare it to? like....other identifiable DNA?

02-25-2007	#6 (permalink)
Seakony añejo Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: no longer in Mesquite with nothing to do Posts: 10,148	very Interesting. I can say this..about common names. One guy in the article said it was a 600 to one longshot...I guess he never did genealogy in southern Italy. I ran across many repetitions of names and had to dig deeper to make sure I had the right ancestors. Many families back then and still today name their children after parents and siblings. In my family today, I have two sets of Joes and Mary's that are married to each other. I am always open to hear more of this research. It would also be interesting to test the DNA on the Shroud of Turin to see if there is a match. The Bible preaches that Jesus rose from the dead then ascended into heaven. Of course he would not really need his body in heaven and may have returned it back to earth. The scriptures have been translated so many times and many words could have had more than one meaning.

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StephenB añejo Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York State Posts: 2,172	The wreckage from Roswell is in my basement.....

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dartay añejo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,881	And the religious react....... The last line of the article is telling. They are refuting before having seen the documentary. http://http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20...jesus_s_burial

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Mindbender Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Playa del Carmen Posts: 3,133	Pop the dna in an egg, cook for 9 months and see what you get... It'd make a great movie - copyright 2007.

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