Woman and child kicked off plane..what do you think? - Page 4

hrlydavison · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by james

Hrlydavison, not a nice post. I find Electra's response bitter and immature, but he/she is entitled to his/her opinion without your characterizations.

Electra, try some of these, they are wonderful.

Your right James. I apologize Electra. I dont know you and shouldnt have presumed to. My bad...I took it to far.

Electra if I meet you in person some time I will shake your hand and buy you a drink.

Cosmo · 07-13-2007

our Riley G would never misbehave...

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Originally Posted by jamesblonde

How old will Riley be on in August? 16, 17 months??? Something like that right? Whatever you do, don't let her say "Bye, Bye plane". Or maybe just put a little tequila in a sippy, you are going to Mexico

hrlydavison · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by hrlydavison

Your right James. I apologize Electra. I dont know you and shouldnt have presumed to. My bad...I took it to far.

Electra if I meet you in person some time I will shake your hand and buy you a drink.

But then I will put my two year old on your lap...

**SunKneeMarie** · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by jamesblonde

How old will Riley be on in August? 16, 17 months??? Something like that right? Whatever you do, don't let her say "Bye, Bye plane". Or maybe just put a little tequila in a sippy, you are going to Mexico

that will be her inaugural flight...

and I have NO idea what she'll be like... I'm one who will bring snacks and drinks and various activities to serve as distractions because I think that's what I should do as the parent of a child too young to understand airplane protocol...

but will they work?

man, i hope so... those flight attendants are a tough crowd...

Beachnutt719 · 07-13-2007

This particular child was not being unruly or misbeheved. Simply being a child and vocalizing on the situation. It's the ones who are constantly screaming and kicking the back of the seat the whole flight that I have a problem with.
And it is not the childs fault in that case either when 9 out of 10 times THE PARENTS sit their and do absolutely nothing. Throw the parents off and let the kid fly.

JEZ · 07-13-2007

Perhaps the airlines could introduce a no kids section of the aircraft at a premium price ? Then if you have issues with exhuberant children, you can opt out.

Most kids are well behaved but some are devils, plus parents who do nothing to control their behavior are not exactly rare.

For an addition 15 bucks to have no under 14s (or whatever) I would certainly pony up on a longer duration flight.

MikenJulie · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by ELECTRA

It is off topic beacause I HAD a kid. I Know what its like to have one and I also know what it is like to have lost one....how many of you can say that!!

At the end of the day it is the adult that is in charge, NOT the child. There is no excuse for unruly, brats where the parent does nothing....in my eyes your off the plane immediately. As I said above, it would seem that the flight attendant over reacted.... BUT...if the never-ending-stammering of the child was indeed true then, off the plane. To quote Mr. Spock, " the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few".

Maintain the peace.

Correction, the need of ONE, along with some lying, outweigh the tolerance and acceptance of the many who have no problem with a 19 month old boy who talks. This isn't a brat, nor the parent a flacid, limp noodle with no abilty to parent. This is a situation where the stewardess, plainly put, was an intolerable, ignorant b----, and didn't have the common descency to back off with her power trip even when fellow travellers tried to aid.

We're not talking about angry, uncontrollable children, or weak, hippie parents that have tried nothing and are all out of ideas. 19 months old, likes to say bye bye plane, and a mom that wouldn't dope her kid up.

I understand Electra your point of view, and would love to choke some parents that don't do anything or display no concern of a bratty kid allowed to do whatever they want, but that senario does not apply in this case.

Hey, I'm going for a beer, cheers.

Mike.

fryman · 07-13-2007

Totally agree with Electra. You are going to be sitting there for several hours so you try to relax. Last thing you need is some brat saying "bye bye plane" over and over without shutting up.

Kudos to the airline for kicking them out. Maybe these people will next time be more considerate about other passengers instead of saying "oh, it is just a kid, let him annoy the hell out of everybody"

jamesblonde · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by fryman

Totally agree with Electra. You are going to be sitting there for several hours so you try to relax. Last thing you need is some brat saying "bye bye plane" over and over without shutting up.

Kudos to the airline for kicking them out. Maybe these people will next time be more considerate about other passengers instead of saying "oh, it is just a kid, let him annoy the hell out of everybody"

The plane was taxiing. He was saying "bye, bye plane" as it was moving. He didn't go on for hours. I'm just flabbergasted that anyone would think that would be annoying the hell out of everybody. I personally would much rather see an excited toddler then a bitter, complaining adult on a plane any day of the week.

**sctx** · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by jamesblonde

The plane was taxiing. He was saying "bye, bye plane" as it was moving. He didn't go on for hours. I'm just flabbergasted that anyone would think that would be annoying the hell out of everybody. I personally would much rather see an excited toddler then a bitter, complaining adult on a plane any day of the week.

I heard the mother got pissed and threatened the stewardess over her Benadryl comment, so, maybe it didn't have anything to do with the child

jamesblonde · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by sctx

I heard the mother got pissed and threatened the stewardess over her Benadryl comment, so, maybe it didn't have anything to do with the child

That was the flight attendant's story. Another passenger backed the mother's story that there was not a threat on her part. She just told the flight attendant that she wasn't going to drug her child.

**sctx** · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by jamesblonde

she wasn't going to drug her child.

bet that attitude changes in 6 years

jamesblonde · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by sctx

bet that attitude changes in 6 years

Probably.

Here's the GMA story and film clip

MWC · 07-13-2007

Nobody's picked up on the fact that the flight itself had been delayed a ridiculously long time. Kudos for mom and child for not being in meltdown from that, to begin with. It sounds as though junior was handling the stress of travel remarkably well.

The kid was babbling, like a toddler will do. "Bye, Bye plane" is harmless once you see the context of taxiing past other planes at their gates. It's not like the kid was saying "Boom boom plane" or "Bye Bye Passengers."

What's next? Banning children from flights? Good luck with that.

**sctx** · 07-13-2007

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Originally Posted by MWC

What's next? .

I think you should be Secretary of National Parental Training

07-13-2007	#53 (permalink)
fryman way into it Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 108	Totally agree with Electra. You are going to be sitting there for several hours so you try to relax. Last thing you need is some brat saying "bye bye plane" over and over without shutting up. Kudos to the airline for kicking them out. Maybe these people will next time be more considerate about other passengers instead of saying "oh, it is just a kid, let him annoy the hell out of everybody" Last edited by fryman; 07-13-2007 at 06:22 PM.

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07-13-2007	#50 (permalink)
Beachnutt719 añejo Join Date: May 2004 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 3,972	This particular child was not being unruly or misbeheved. Simply being a child and vocalizing on the situation. It's the ones who are constantly screaming and kicking the back of the seat the whole flight that I have a problem with. And it is not the childs fault in that case either when 9 out of 10 times THE PARENTS sit their and do absolutely nothing. Throw the parents off and let the kid fly.

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JEZ añejo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: At the Beer Bucket, Playa Del Carmen Posts: 3,584	Perhaps the airlines could introduce a no kids section of the aircraft at a premium price ? Then if you have issues with exhuberant children, you can opt out. Most kids are well behaved but some are devils, plus parents who do nothing to control their behavior are not exactly rare. For an addition 15 bucks to have no under 14s (or whatever) I would certainly pony up on a longer duration flight.

07-13-2007	#59 (permalink)
MWC añejo Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Connecticut Posts: 6,019	Nobody's picked up on the fact that the flight itself had been delayed a ridiculously long time. Kudos for mom and child for not being in meltdown from that, to begin with. It sounds as though junior was handling the stress of travel remarkably well. The kid was babbling, like a toddler will do. "Bye, Bye plane" is harmless once you see the context of taxiing past other planes at their gates. It's not like the kid was saying "Boom boom plane" or "Bye Bye Passengers." What's next? Banning children from flights? Good luck with that.

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