In the Rush to Help - Global Warming

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by PlayadelSoul

Greenland, a lush forest full of plant life and insects. Today, a block of ice. Not too hard to deduce that Greenland was warmer then (when there were no humans to emit greenhouse gasses).

There exists no scientific evidence that X amount of greenhouse gas results in Y amount of temp change. There isn't even any evidence that X and Y are related, other than in theory.

Again, your first statement, while very likely true, certainly does not in any way lead to the second conclusion. Your second conclusion appears to be significantly likely to be in error based upon the vast preponderance (is that like saying really, really vast amount?) of scientific evidence.

There is very good reason for cautious avoidance of the manageable, negative consequences of your unscientific conclusion being wrong and the preponderance of scientific evidence being right on the subject of human-caused global warming/climate change.

[PlayadelSoul]

Originally Posted by Jacko

Again, your first statement, while very likely true, certainly does not in any way lead to the second conclusion. Your second conclusion appears to be significantly likely to be in error based upon the vast preponderance (is that like saying really, really vast amount?) of scientific evidence.

There is very good reason for cautious avoidance of the manageable, negative consequences of your unscientific conclusion being wrong and the preponderance of scientific evidence being right on the subject of human-caused global warming/climate change.

There is no evidence, let alone a vast preponderance. It is all theory based on models. Models like the one here:

USATODAY.com

Oops, what we meant was FLOODS.

[ryberg]

Originally Posted by PlayadelSoul

There is no evidence, let alone a vast preponderance...

Well see there we're just too apart to continue, I think. To me it's like saying that there's no evidence of poverty in the U.S. or something. It's just so outside what I see as reality that I don't think there's a point to any further discussion.

So again it's the same discussion as before...

Steve

[ryberg]

There is NO evidence is just an astounding statement. It's hard to imagine what you think of all these scientists working on this with NO evidence. They don't say there's NO counterevidence or problematic evidence...

Steve

[JEZ]

One in three amphibians, one in four mammals, one in eight birds and 70% of plants so far assessed are believed to be at risk of extinction, with human alteration of their habitat the single biggest cause.

The rest of this article is available on BBC news page. Enough said ?

[PlayadelSoul]

Originally Posted by ryberg

There is NO evidence is just an astounding statement. It's hard to imagine what you think of all these scientists working on this with NO evidence. They don't say there's NO counterevidence or problematic evidence...

Steve

Well, Steve, the answer to this riddle is easy. Cite some real evidence. Not theory or opinion but real, solid evidence. X = Y and such.

BTW, evidence of manmade global warming. No one is arguing that we aren't going through a warming period.

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by PlayadelSoul

Well, Steve, the answer to this riddle is easy. Cite some real evidence. Not theory or opinion but real, solid evidence. X = Y and such.

BTW, evidence of manmade global warming. No one is arguing that we aren't going through a warming period.

The scientists have cited billions and billions (deference to Carl Sagan RIP) of scientific articles to try to warn you of the reality of what they are seeing...you choose not to see......we cannot help you with this.

[ryberg]

Originally Posted by PlayadelSoul

Well, Steve, the answer to this riddle is easy. Cite some real evidence. Not theory or opinion but real, solid evidence. X = Y and such.

BTW, evidence of manmade global warming. No one is arguing that we aren't going through a warming period.

There's a lengthy thread on all that here, if you like.

Steve

[Just Lucky]

Originally Posted by JEZ

The rest of this article is available on BBC news page. Enough said ?

I have it on good authourity that the BBC is so un-American as to be British! How could anyone possibly believe them when they have an entire section of their news website dedicated to reporting on the news,opinion and explanation of climatic change:BBC | Climate Change

[abachechi]

Originally Posted by PlayadelSoul

BTW, evidence of manmade global warming. No one is arguing that we aren't going through a warming period.

Your right in that it may 'just be a warming period'. However, naturally, the earth has never warmed this much on it's own...............unless it's trying to kill itself........but again, that's probably just mans fault too

[Mr Cancun]

Add about 500 more scientist to the traitors list.

Challenge to Scientific Consensus on Global Warming: Analysis Finds Hundreds of Scientists Have Published Evidence Countering Man-Made Global Warming Fears - Press Release

[ryberg]

Well then it's hundreds against thousands, I guess (edit: which pretty much defines the point involving preponderance, actually).

Psssst -- you guys -- I think I hear Scott coming!

Steve

[Just Lucky]

Originally Posted by ryberg

Well then it's hundreds against thousands, I guess.

Psssst -- you guys -- I think I hear Scott coming!

Steve

Quick, back to socialized medicine!

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by ryberg

Well then it's hundreds against thousands, I guess (edit: which pretty much defines the point involving preponderance, actually).

Psssst -- you guys -- I think I hear Scott coming!

Steve

Nope...I think he is likely still on the road on his way back to Texas...

[Jacko]

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