New Orleans becoming a Latino city

[Seakony]

Originally Posted by Heather

My, my...defensive. I didn't realize it was just your opinion, I thought you were saying something factual. I actually did want a link so I could get the information. Is wanting to know actual facts so very wrong for you?

It's not the first time you questioned me and asked for links.. not defensive..just stating a fact this time. Just wondering about your motives to always question me.

There are no actual facts on the count..not all are counted.

[ryberg]

I questioned you on the same figure, among other things, when you cited it yesterday or the day before on the Presidential thread. Like Heather, I was looking to find out if it was factual or, you know, just pulled out of a hat or something. Why would it be so strange for people who just want to know if something claimed is accurate or true that their motives must be questioned if they ask for some sort of source?

Now Roni... mammyjammers??? I cannot find any decent linguistic source for this word (though it does seem to appear in use).

ANYWAYS, I'll give you a link on a somewhat related point. I'm fond of facts.

Minorities a majority in Denver
Now, 50.01 percent of the county's population is non-white, statistics show.

By Bruce Finley Denver Post Staff Writer
Article Launched: 08/09/2007 01:00:00 AM MDT

The U.S. Census Bureau announced Wednesday that Denver has crossed a cultural threshold: Sometime between 2005 and 2006, white non-Spanish/ Latino/Hispanic residents became a minority.

Denver is the largest of eight counties nationwide to cross this line during that period, census officials said, based on population data collected over the past year that showed a continuing international influx . . .

The federal government habitually divides the U.S. population by racial groups and Latino origin - black, Asian, Latino, white non-Latino, American Indian, Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander, and a mixed-race category called "Two or More."

This latest breakdown, announced in a news release, raised questions among experts about the purpose of dividing the population by race.

"I don't think it really affects anything for Denver, or that it affects anything for Colorado. Yes, we are becoming more diverse. That's been a trend since ... when we started having immigrants come into the United States," said Elizabeth Garner, Colorado's state demographer.

Federal officials "slice and dice everything by race," even as mixed-race categories grow rapidly, Garner said. "It's going to get to a point that there's going to be more 'Two or More' than anything else. Maybe, by the time we get to that, they'll be thinking there might be another way."

Huzzah for Ms. Garner, demographer and astute social commentator! Maybe people will just start thinking there's another way.

And now I finally know what my kids are: I'm going to start writing in "Two or More" everywhere they ask me impossibly to select just one between "White non-Latino" and "Latino".

Steve

[ANDY]

Crackers ...... Negroes.......Mammyjammers, now being from the Uk a couple of these words and meanings are new to me but im just hoping that they are not as derogatory as they sound

[ANDY]

Yes, we are becoming more diverse. That's been a trend since ... when we started having immigrants come into the United States," said Elizabeth Garner, Colorado's state demographer.
Er that would be since Leif Erikson and Columbus visited then i suppose

[Seakony]

Originally Posted by ryberg

I questioned you on the same figure, among other things, when you cited it yesterday or the day before on the Presidential thread. Like Heather, I was looking to find out if it was factual or, you know, just pulled out of a hat or something. Why would it be so strange for people who just want to know if something claimed is accurate or true that their motives must be questioned if they ask for some sort of source?


Steve

If that's the case then I guess you and everybody else also need to post a link for every statement posted. I don't think I have posted much of anything other than a laugh on the political threads in a few days.

No links to back up this post. oops
What post are you referring to?

[sctx]

Originally Posted by ANDY&JEN

Crackers ...... Negroes.......Mammyjammers, now being from the Uk a couple of these words and meanings are new to me but im just hoping that they are not as derogatory as they sound

and don't forget, it's a highly competitive market feeding all the construction workers, so we really need to add Mexicans to the list of suspects.......we have taco truck turf wars here in Austin.......i'd bet us low life southern crackers have little to do with the crimes

[TAPPY]

There are both pro's and con's to this issue.
It has to do with mobile food vendor permits.
Most people love the carts - has nothing to do if they are "crackers" or "mammyjammers" any other race. (I find those names pretty derogatory as well Andy)
All mobile cart vendors have got to follow the same set of rules, has nothing to do with what race or nationality they are. The only food vendors that are exempt are the snowball stands.

[Heather]

Originally Posted by Seakony

If that's the case then I guess you and everybody else also need to post a link for every statement posted. I don't think I have posted much of anything other than a laugh on the political threads in a few days.

No links to back up this post. oops
What post are you referring to?

When you're just running your mouth, no link required, as I don't need or want to learn more about it.

When you post something to say that all across the States, there are 3X more latinos, that sounds interesting to me, and I'd like to see your source. It's common knowledge that when one makes a point, one typically should back it up. I think most people do back up statistical statments they make by citing sources; as I learned in college, to not do so would be, uh, uninformed.

Since you've told me, however, that that was just your opinion, well, that changes everything. I don't have to know how you formed your opinion and I can take that for what it's worth.

[roni]

Originally Posted by ryberg

I questioned you on the same figure, among other things, when you cited it yesterday or the day before on the Presidential thread. Like Heather, I was looking to find out if it was factual or, you know, just pulled out of a hat or something. Why would it be so strange for people who just want to know if something claimed is accurate or true that their motives must be questioned if they ask for some sort of source?

Now Roni... mammyjammers??? I cannot find any decent linguistic source for this word (though it does seem to appear in use).
Steve

The author of the book (Walter Murphy) The Vicar of Christ has a USMC gunnery sarge using it during the Korean war.

[MWC]

And we thought strolling mariachi bands were bad before ...

Now they'll have a tuba, bass drum and beads ...

Laissez les bons temps roulez ... a hora!

[roni]

Originally Posted by ANDY&JEN

Crackers ...... Negroes.......Mammyjammers, now being from the Uk a couple of these words and meanings are new to me but im just hoping that they are not as derogatory as they sound

Crackers and mammyjammers may be derogatory. Negro, more the historical term from the 50's and 60's - found in many speeches by Black leaders of the day. Not generally derogatory, but can be used that way, I suppose.

Definitely not the N bomb.

[ANDY]

Originally Posted by roni

Crackers and mammyjammers may be derogatory. Negro, more the historical term from the 50's and 60's - found in many speeches by Black leaders of the day. Not generally derogatory, but can be used that way, I suppose.
Definitely not the N bomb.

Yes Roni i was aware that the term Negro used to be the term used i was just surprised and dismayed to see it along with the other two used on this forum

[Rissask]

Originally Posted by TAPPY

There are both pro's and con's to this issue.
It has to do with mobile food vendor permits.
Most people love the carts - has nothing to do if they are "crackers" or "mammyjammers" any other race. (I find those names pretty derogatory as well Andy)
All mobile cart vendors have got to follow the same set of rules, has nothing to do with what race or nationality they are. The only food vendors that are exempt are the snowball stands.

There you have it, right from the mouth of a local...

So, in other words, just the media getting hold of something with a kernel of truth and completely blowing it out of proportion.....jeez, I can't believe it *insert sarcasm here*

Yeah, 'Negro', wow...I haven't heard that term since my grandfather died a decade ago.

[JameyBano]

My husband is from the New Orleans area and whites are not called "crackers" there..I think that is more of a pregorative term used in Georgia.
The whites actually call themselves something else..I believe Tappy may know the term.....

[ryberg]

Just wondering about mammyjammers. Didn't seem to me like it could be too offensive, as it appears in the names of groups and books and so forth. Just wondering about the exact meaning and etymology.

Originally Posted by Seakony

No links to back up this post. oops

Ah, that reminds me, I'm batting .314 with the Diamondbacks this year. Good for me, huh?!?

Also Argentina has just taken matters into their own hands in terms of their long-time soccer rivals and has invaded and quickly conquered Brazil.

Ah, and cold fusion is a reality!

Steve