Craig may not resign after all

roni · 09-05-2007

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Larry Craig of Idaho may reconsider his resignation if he is cleared of a disorderly conduct charge to which he pleaded guilty last month, his spokesman said Tuesday.

"He's fighting this. He is innocent, and he believes that there's a good chance that he eventually will have this charge overturned and that the Ethics Committee won't act against him," Dan Whiting, a spokesman for the Idaho Republican, told KTVB-TV in Boise.

But Whiting had said Tuesday it was still the GOP senator's intention to resign effective September 30, as Craig announced Saturday.

Craig's hopes were buoyed by a call of support from Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pennsylvania, according to a tape of a voicemail Craig left.

Bluespicker · 09-05-2007

From what I've been reading in the Mpls.Strib he'll have a tough time overturning his guilty plea. I'm sure the repub powers that be aren't too happy with his decision. Sounds like this story won't be dropping off page one soon.

MWC · 09-05-2007

I hope he does fight it. I think it is time the country have a dialog about what personal behaviors should eliminate a legislator from serving in the capacity for which they are elected. As Mark, Stogey and others have pointed out so accurately -- what makes one Senator's actions wrong, and another's palatable?

I don't particularly care about a politician's sexual proclivities, one way or another. I don't think it effects the job they do; and I think the whole "might give an unfirendly something to blackmail them about" canard goes away if pols are allowed less puritanism judging them. There's more potential for blackmail if things are kept in the closet, so to speak.

I think it's ironic that it should be a Republican Senator from a fairly conservative state that should fuel the dialog -- and I'm sure it's the farthest intent from HIS mind -- but it is a national discussion that should take place.

Sol · 09-05-2007

I hear this news this morning. One of his sons was interviewed and he indicated that all of this was a misunderstanding. His daughter was lambasting Craig's buddies in the Senate for not being supportive of him. Craig has organized a "crisis management" team which includes Michael Vicks' attorney. Craig is now saying that it was his "intention" to resign on the 30th but he has decided to fight this.
Michael Vick's attorney? Disgusting.

In his speech last Saturday, he came across as sincerely wanting to resign because of this mess...now he is not....it's disappointing.

Anna Banana · 09-05-2007

This is my question: DID THE MAN KILL ANYONE? What's all this media attention for BIPP sake, what dies he have to plea gulty for? manslaughter? Isn't being humiliated in front of the whole world for something that doesn't affect our society or his job in any way enough? Or was he found with a child? Or beating someone? This is amazing.

Sol · 09-05-2007

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Originally Posted by Anna Tortuga

This is my question: DID THE MAN KILL ANYONE? What's all this media attention for BIPP sake, what dies he have to plea gulty for? manslaughter? Isn't being humiliated in front of the whole world for something that doesn't affect our society or his job in any way enough? Or was he found with a child? Or beating someone? This is amazing.

He is pleaing guilty for a misdemeanor charge of lewd conduct. I don't care about his sexuality. The media is jumping on this because of his prior comments regarding Clinton and because he has an anti-gay agenda. That's what happens to public figures in this country. The media loves to chase these folks around and dig for dirt. I am bummed that he retained Michael Vicks' attorney. He could have picked someone else, instead of the dog murderer's lawyer. Also, he indicated that he would resign...for me that kind of made up for the hypocrisy, and showed that he wanted to deal with his personal life. Now, I think he just looks bad.

Bluespicker · 09-05-2007

Getting caught soliciting sex in public restrooms isn't palatable for anyone. But Craig is an elected government official and like it or not they are held to a higher standard than everyday folks. His sexuality means nothing to me....that's between him and his wife.

Banzoomba · 09-05-2007

I just don't get how tapping your foot becomes a lewd act........lots of missing facts......and I don't think his voting record matters in this case .

roni · 09-05-2007

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Originally Posted by Banzoomba

I just don't get how tapping your foot becomes a lewd act........lots of missing facts......and I don't think his voting record matters in this case .

Have you read or listened to the entire police interview?

TAPPY · 09-05-2007

Did he ever verbalize his request to the officer ? or show him his Johnson ??? or make strange noises ???

All I ever read was that he tapped his foot, ran his hand under the stall, and using a wide stance he let his foot touch the officers foot, and used his suit case to block the stall door ? Was there anything else ???

I really dont know - that is why I am asking. Sounds freaky, but still seems like he would have had to verbalize his request.

I know to arrest some one for prostitution there is supposed to be a verbal request and money exchange right ???

Bluespicker · 09-05-2007

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Originally Posted by Banzoomba

I just don't get how tapping your foot becomes a lewd act........lots of missing facts......and I don't think his voting record matters in this case .

It much more than that. That being said I had no idea there is a "code of conduct" that people have that cruise for sex in public restrooms. I guess I lead a sheltered life.

Rissask · 09-05-2007

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Getting caught soliciting sex in public restrooms isn't palatable for anyone. But Craig is an elected government official and like it or not they are held to a higher standard than everyday folks. His sexuality means nothing to me....that's between him and his wife.

I still cannot believe this kind of thing is such big news down there! You funny Americans and your prudish fascination with people's sex lives. *mystified*

roni · 09-05-2007

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Originally Posted by Rissask

I still cannot believe this kind of thing is such big news down there! You funny Americans and your prudish fascination with people's sex lives. *mystified*

It's all those foot soldiers in the War and Assault on Reason

Seakony · 09-05-2007

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Originally Posted by Rissask

I still cannot believe this kind of thing is such big news down there! You funny Americans and your prudish fascination with people's sex lives. *mystified*

It's not that big of a deal....just on this board...look to the thread starters and put 2 and 2 together.

Bluespicker · 09-05-2007

I didn't realize that cruising for sex in public restrooms was an everyday thing in Canada.

09-05-2007	#1 (permalink)
roni añejo Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 59,701	Craig may not resign after all WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Larry Craig of Idaho may reconsider his resignation if he is cleared of a disorderly conduct charge to which he pleaded guilty last month, his spokesman said Tuesday. "He's fighting this. He is innocent, and he believes that there's a good chance that he eventually will have this charge overturned and that the Ethics Committee won't act against him," Dan Whiting, a spokesman for the Idaho Republican, told KTVB-TV in Boise. But Whiting had said Tuesday it was still the GOP senator's intention to resign effective September 30, as Craig announced Saturday. Craig's hopes were buoyed by a call of support from Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pennsylvania, according to a tape of a voicemail Craig left.

09-05-2007	#10 (permalink)
TAPPY añejo Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 21,148	Did he ever verbalize his request to the officer ? or show him his Johnson ??? or make strange noises ??? All I ever read was that he tapped his foot, ran his hand under the stall, and using a wide stance he let his foot touch the officers foot, and used his suit case to block the stall door ? Was there anything else ??? I really dont know - that is why I am asking. Sounds freaky, but still seems like he would have had to verbalize his request. I know to arrest some one for prostitution there is supposed to be a verbal request and money exchange right ??? Last edited by TAPPY; 09-05-2007 at 12:50 PM..

09-05-2007	#2 (permalink)
Bluespicker añejo Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Playa Posts: 4,760	From what I've been reading in the Mpls.Strib he'll have a tough time overturning his guilty plea. I'm sure the repub powers that be aren't too happy with his decision. Sounds like this story won't be dropping off page one soon.

09-05-2007	#3 (permalink)
MWC añejo Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Connecticut Posts: 6,500	I hope he does fight it. I think it is time the country have a dialog about what personal behaviors should eliminate a legislator from serving in the capacity for which they are elected. As Mark, Stogey and others have pointed out so accurately -- what makes one Senator's actions wrong, and another's palatable? I don't particularly care about a politician's sexual proclivities, one way or another. I don't think it effects the job they do; and I think the whole "might give an unfirendly something to blackmail them about" canard goes away if pols are allowed less puritanism judging them. There's more potential for blackmail if things are kept in the closet, so to speak. I think it's ironic that it should be a Republican Senator from a fairly conservative state that should fuel the dialog -- and I'm sure it's the farthest intent from HIS mind -- but it is a national discussion that should take place.

09-05-2007	#4 (permalink)
Sol añejo Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Gem State Posts: 16,176	I hear this news this morning. One of his sons was interviewed and he indicated that all of this was a misunderstanding. His daughter was lambasting Craig's buddies in the Senate for not being supportive of him. Craig has organized a "crisis management" team which includes Michael Vicks' attorney. Craig is now saying that it was his "intention" to resign on the 30th but he has decided to fight this. Michael Vick's attorney? Disgusting. In his speech last Saturday, he came across as sincerely wanting to resign because of this mess...now he is not....it's disappointing.

09-05-2007	#5 (permalink)
Anna Banana añejo Merchant Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: playa del carmen...urgh Posts: 10,194	This is my question: DID THE MAN KILL ANYONE? What's all this media attention for BIPP sake, what dies he have to plea gulty for? manslaughter? Isn't being humiliated in front of the whole world for something that doesn't affect our society or his job in any way enough? Or was he found with a child? Or beating someone? This is amazing.

09-05-2007	#7 (permalink)
Bluespicker añejo Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Playa Posts: 4,760	Getting caught soliciting sex in public restrooms isn't palatable for anyone. But Craig is an elected government official and like it or not they are held to a higher standard than everyday folks. His sexuality means nothing to me....that's between him and his wife.

09-05-2007	#8 (permalink)
Banzoomba big sexy speedo guy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Top of the Chesapeake Bay, Md Posts: 9,692	I just don't get how tapping your foot becomes a lewd act........lots of missing facts......and I don't think his voting record matters in this case .

09-05-2007	#15 (permalink)
Bluespicker añejo Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Playa Posts: 4,760	I didn't realize that cruising for sex in public restrooms was an everyday thing in Canada.

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