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Old 10-14-2007   #16 (permalink)
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I keep hearing y'all talking about pre-tanning so you don't burn...I would be careful thinking that tanning is somehow protecting you... read this..the way to keep from burning is to use a relatively high SPF lotion. Works everytime for me.
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I know it's not good for my skin, but I do fake bake. As my Momma always said, fat looks better browned When I'm in Playa I always have high SPF sunscreen on, I hate burning.
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I keep hearing y'all talking about pre-tanning so you don't burn...I would be careful thinking that tanning is somehow protecting you... read this..the way to keep from burning is to use a relatively high SPF lotion. Works everytime for me.
Believe me....I come down with SPF 30....I'm fair & all of this helps in avoiding a bad burn.
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I've had 3 skin cancer surgerical procedures on my face including one requiring the skills of a plastic surgeon.

I don't fake bake. I don't lay in the sun for hours in Playa. But... I'm active and definitely do not avoid the sun while in Playa. I use 30 SPF all over, usually once a day in the morning before we leave the room. I'm fair (blonde, blue-eyed, Swedish/English bloodline), I freckle, and a "dirty beige" is a downright bitchin' tan for me. I rarely burn unless I miss spots with the sunscreen.

In my book (and in any good dermatoligist's book), fake baking is just asking for trouble. Don't let vanity cause you to turn a blind eye to the inherent dangers of it. I've learned to not give a rat's ass what anyone thinks of my paleness. It's a lot more attractive than my skin cancer surgery scars.
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I've had 3 skin cancer surgerical procedures on my face including one requiring the skills of a plastic surgeon.

I don't fake bake. I don't lay in the sun for hours in Playa. But... I'm active and definitely do not avoid the sun while in Playa. I use 30 SPF all over, usually once a day in the morning before we leave the room. I'm fair (blonde, blue-eyed, Swedish/English bloodline), I freckle, and a "dirty beige" is a downright bitchin' tan for me. I rarely burn unless I miss spots with the sunscreen.

In my book (and in any good dermatoligist's book), fake baking is just asking for trouble. Don't let vanity cause you to turn a blind eye to the inherent dangers of it. I've learned to not give a rat's ass what anyone thinks of my paleness. It's a lot more attractive than my skin cancer surgery scars.
Hey Karen, I am getting two done on my face at the end of the month...never had a plastic surgeon before this...is it any different than when the dermatologists cut out the cancer? Or do they just do a more elegant job?

(2 basal cell cancers on my face, 1 squamous cell on my back and another basal cell on my chest...it wasn't a good visit this time)
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Hey Karen, I am getting two done on my face at the end of the month...never had a plastic surgeon before this...is it any different than when the dermatologists cut out the cancer? Or do they just do a more elegant job?

(2 basal cell cancers on my face, 1 squamous cell on my back and another basal cell on my chest...it wasn't a good visit this time)
Crap, Jacko.... sorry to hear that you're going through that. But then again, I'm glad you are. Glad cuz they've caught it and are getting it GONE. Kudos to you, my friend, for having the "smaahts" to get those annual body checks (I never miss having mine done). Is that when they discovered these areas??

The first surgery (basal cell) I had done required removing an area about the size of a quarter on my upper right temple (straight over from the corner of my right eye, at the hairline). Because of the rather large-ish removal of tissue, they determined that a plastic surgeon's skills would be needed in order to stitch it up in such a way as to not affect my eye or eyebrow (i.e. pull the skin). He did a fabulous job, and now after almost 14 years, there's a very faint scar that is mostly hidden by my eyeglass frame.

The other two surgeries involved a section directly below my right nostril (again, luckily, basal cell). I had the Mohs surgery done at Mass General which has a 99% success rate. Didn't even require a stitch - just a pressure bandage. But... I beat the odds and a few years later the cancer returned. This time, a different doctor, a local dermatologist, went in with a grapefruit spoon and dug a hole to China. Ended up with about 8 stitches and a scar resembling the Toyota logo. But that scar is also fading, and hey... I never wanted to grow a moustache anyway.

Good luck with your surgeries, Jacko. Scars on men are sexy. And I'm sure Linda has a cute nurse's outfit to wear for you during your recovery phase.
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Good luck with your surgeries, Jacko. Scars on men are sexy. And I'm sure Linda has a cute nurse's outfit to wear for you during your recovery phase.
Thats what I was going to say!!!
Sorry you're having to go through all that Jacko....but your so pretty it wont hurt ya none.
Good luck with the surgery and here's to never having to deal with it again!
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We both pre-tan before our winter trips. Usually only about 100 minutes, ten ten minute sessions for the 2-3 weeks prior to departure. We both tan easily, rarely burn, and have very few moles/freckles.

We do it for vanity (not wanting to be ghostly white the first few days) and also to lessen the chances of burning the first few days, as we are in the sun and ocean much of the time and even 45 spf wouldn't cut it. The one time we didn't have time to pre-tan we both got burned backs/shoulders the second day there.

While there I use 15 spf, 20 on my face (and I wear a hat in the sun- wrinkles stay away!).
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Thats what I was going to say!!!
Sorry you're having to go through all that Jacko....but your so pretty it wont hurt ya none.
Good luck with the surgery and here's to never having to deal with it again!
Pretty? Lets say "rugged", okay? And going to look even more rugged when this is done! Off to see the nurse now!
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I have to for about 8 sessions. I don't spend enough time outside during the year. So basically I have that farmers tan on my hands and face but the body is pretty pale.
Gonna start in a few days to get ready for my trip.
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Pre Tanning Do You or Don't You...
nope. i just go with what's left of the buntan + maybe some self tan lotion if needed.
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No fake bake for me. I've tried it and it didn't work for me. I'm white with freckles and using 50 SPF and staying out if the sun during the mid afternoon hours keeps me in the pink. No burn though and that's the way I like it.
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No fake bake for me. I've tried it and it didn't work for me. I'm white with freckles and using 50 SPF and staying out if the sun during the mid afternoon hours keeps me in the pink. No burn though and that's the way I like it.
The tanning bed actually does not seem to get me brown. In fact last time I tanned for the 2 weeks in a bed prior to going to Cancun for a week and no tan, maybe less pink. After the two weeks and then one week in cancun I was still not brown when I got back. But I wasn't burnt. Burnt is easy which is why I need to get the tan bed for protection so that I can stay out all day long in the sun.
Just saying.
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The tanning bed actually does not seem to get me brown. In fact last time I tanned for the 2 weeks in a bed prior to going to Cancun for a week and no tan, maybe less pink. After the two weeks and then one week in cancun I was still not brown when I got back. But I wasn't burnt. Burnt is easy which is why I need to get the tan bed for protection so that I can stay out all day long in the sun.
Just saying.
Per my earlier post, the tan bed is likely NOT protecting you...it is hurting you..you can easily keep from burning..just wear 30 plus SPF lotion..I do it for weeks on end...never burn..out ALL day...just sayin'
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I do usually do a pre-tan before I go. Usually just 2 or 3 times to get a little color back. I know it has nothing to do with there being less chance of burning when I get in the sun, its just a good excuse to get a tan in the middle of winter.
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