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Old 11-04-2007   #61 (permalink)
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somebody obviously slept on the left side of the bed last nite
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Considered it but had already made an emergency trip (PC related) to Texas in the earlier part of October. Lately, I'm mostly stalking PlayaInfo because my REAL life has provided plenty of challenge!
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Considered it but had already made an emergency trip (PC related) to Texas in the earlier part of October. Lately, I'm mostly stalking PlayaInfo because my REAL life has provided plenty of challenge!
here's a teaser for you....well...three teasers actually

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they've made it very clear they don't want US troops on their side of the border.....not that SEAL and Delta units haven't been there, but no mass incursions
What they don't want is a half-hearted effort from us that costs them as if it were a fully engaged effort from us....And it does cost him dearly internally to deal with us in any open way..its a serious balancing act...

How many troops in Afghanistan? How many in Iraq?
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I think W's whole notion of establishing democracy in the Mid-East is totally misguided -- and, perversely, totally contradicts our national interests. Really, really helped the situation in Palestine, didn't it? Idiots. Gas prices are through the roof, and a nuclear country risks dissolving into anarchy because of W's meddling.

I don't blame Musharraf for doing what he's done. If you do a popular vote in these countries, of course the radical Islamics are going to win, and win big time. What the hell is the world going to do when Pakistan's nuclear offensive weaponry is in the hands of the legitimately-elected radical Islamic government?

Not that I am anti-Muslim, I'm just ... incredibly inarticulate right now.
I dunno...you are doing pretty well here I think!
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I dunno...you are doing pretty well here I think!
Well, thanks ... I just didn't want to come across as anti-muslim on this.
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What they don't want is a half-hearted effort from us that costs them as if it were a fully engaged effort from us....And it does cost him dearly internally to deal with us in any open way..its a serious balancing act...

How many troops in Afghanistan? How many in Iraq?
Afghanistan is a multilateral effort, isn't it? You only counting US troops? Just wondering. If I were from a country that had troops in Afghanistan, I would take ignoring their service as a slight, at best.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but serves little purpose unless your aim is to focus on what someone has done wrong. You think the next President will be able to read tea leaves?
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Afghanistan is a multilateral effort, isn't it? You only counting US troops? Just wondering. If I were from a country that had troops in Afghanistan, I would take ignoring their service as a slight, at best.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but serves little purpose unless your aim is to focus on what someone has done wrong. You think the next President will be able to read tea leaves?
Agree with you on the first sentence, but the second is a bit disingenuous. W pointedly ignored past experience and expert advice on the entire MidEast issue. So no, I don't expect leaders to read tea leaves; but I do (will) expect them to apply their intellect, and the country's expertise, toward forward-thinking solutions.
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Afghanistan is a multilateral effort, isn't it? You only counting US troops? Just wondering. If I were from a country that had troops in Afghanistan, I would take ignoring their service as a slight, at best.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but serves little purpose unless your aim is to focus on what someone has done wrong. You think the next President will be able to read tea leaves?
Tea leaves? Lets hope the next President is not so focused on where Al Qaeda is NOT.
And, since I had not prior answered my own question ...I will do it now....(I have NO idea where you created the outlandish notion that I somehow ignored other folks troops? You must have been talking about someone else again as you responded to my post?)

My point was regardng our participation

Total ISAF troop strength as of July 2007 was 41,000, with 37 nations contributing troops. Contingents were led by the United States (14,750), the United Kingdom (6,500), Germany (3,000), Canada and Italy (2,500 each), the Netherlands (1,300), Turkey (1,200) and Poland (1,075). Contingents for all other contributing nations are below 1,000 troops, and some—Austria, Ireland, Iceland, Switzerland—are below 10. The 41,000 troop total for the ISAF includes approximately 6,450 so-called national contingent commands, or supporting troops that may not be in Afghanistan.

As compared to Iraq....? And we certainly are not talking hindsight here....Al Qaeda attacked the U.S....Al Qaeda fled to Afghanistan. Then Al Qaeda likely fled to the Western mountain provinces of nuclear armed, dictator led, largely Islamic Pakistan which is a close neighbor of Afghanistan....and after all these years.....we STILL have only around 25,000 U.S. troops (around 15,000 in ISAF and another 8000+ not in ISAF) in Afghanistan.....

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Agree with you on the first sentence, but the second is a bit disingenuous. W pointedly ignored past experience and expert advice on the entire MidEast issue. So no, I don't expect leaders to read tea leaves; but I do (will) expect them to apply their intellect, and the country's expertise, toward forward-thinking solutions.
Ya think?
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Tea leaves? Lets hope the next President is not so focused on where Al Qaeda is NOT.
And, since I had not prior answered my own question ...I will do it now....(I have NO idea where you created the outlandish notion that I somehow ignored other folks troops? You must have been talking about someone else again as you responded to my post?)

My point was regardng our participation

Total ISAF troop strength as of July 2007 was 41,000, with 37 nations contributing troops. Contingents were led by the United States (14,750), the United Kingdom (6,500), Germany (3,000), Canada and Italy (2,500 each), the Netherlands (1,300), Turkey (1,200) and Poland (1,075). Contingents for all other contributing nations are below 1,000 troops, and some—Austria, Ireland, Iceland, Switzerland—are below 10. The 41,000 troop total for the ISAF includes approximately 6,450 so-called national contingent commands, or supporting troops that may not be in Afghanistan.

As compared to Iraq....? And we certainly are not talking hindsight here....Al Qaeda attacked the U.S....Al Qaeda fled to Afghanistan. Then Al Qaeda likely fled to the Western mountain provinces of nuclear armed, dictator led, largely Islamic Pakistan which is a close neighbor of Afghanistan....and after all these years.....we STILL have only around 25,000 U.S. troops (around 15,000 in ISAF and another 8000+ not in ISAF) in Afghanistan.....
Are you suggesting that we should have gone into Pakistan?

As history shows, fighting a war in that part of the world is difficult. The Russians certainly can attest to that. Considering the physical geography and history, what the US and coalition has done in Afghanistan is remarkable. Chasing al Qaeda into Pakistan would have been a mistake.


Word has it that the reason things have started to pick up in Pakistan and Afghanistan is because al Qaeda has effectively abandoned Iraq, thanks to the surge. My guess is that Bush will keep chasing, and now move some of those troops to Afghanistan to continue the fight.

Again, hindsight is a wonderful thing. In hindsight, al Qaeda has lost in Iraq, a place where they had invested a lot.
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