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Old 11-03-2007   #46 (permalink)
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Seems to me every school has the same type of teachers and the the same type of stories circulating.Does your school have the one about the hot dog?
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I've never heard of a male being forced to have sex with a female, just not possible. A woman can be forced to have sex. So yes there is a difference between males and feemales and the ages of consent.

consensual was a bad choice of words for me... it is never consensual when an adult has sex with a child... that's the law... it is statutory rape....

i'm still confused as to your stance on middle school sex when you were on the other thread... here is one of your quotes:
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Do you realize that 11 year old kids having sex is considered rape?
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I've never heard of a male being forced to have sex with a female, just not possible. A woman can be forced to have sex. So yes there is a difference between males and feemales and the ages of consent.
Although not as frequently, male victim/female perpertrator cases do occur. "Age of consent" no matter what gender is the letter of the law in every state that I am aware of.
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Although not as frequently, male victim/female perpertrator cases do occur. "Age of consent" no matter what gender is the letter of the law in every state that I am aware of.

a male can sustain an erection even without sexual desire being there... it's a physical act that can be achieved with physical manipulation...
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I've never heard of a male being forced to have sex with a female, just not possible. A woman can be forced to have sex. So yes there is a difference between males and females and the ages of consent.
Here you go Stogey...
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We found a small number of studies that examined the sexually coercive tactics used by women against men. Expanding upon research by McCormick (1979) on sexual influence strategies, O'Sullivan and Byers (1993) measured whether 112 women had used 44 positive, neutral, or negative strategies to obtain sex from a reluctant male partner. The most frequently reported behaviors were flirtation, touching, compliments, and removing clothing (cited by 45% to 54% of women). Least reported were acts such as trying to get men drank or stoned (cited by 5% of women) and using physical force (3% of women). Anderson and Aymami (1993) measured 212 college women's use of 24 tactics for initiating sexual contact with men. One of the most commonly reported tactics was attempting to arouse the partner (cited by 79% of women). However, about half of the women reported initiating sex with a drunken man, 15% reported getting a man drank or stoned, and 6% reported using physical force. In Germany, Krahe (2000) found that 9% of 248 sexually experienced women reported attempting to have or having sex with a man against his will. The strategies employed were exploitation of a man in an incapacitated state (reported by 6% of women), verbal pressure (3%), and physical force (2%).

A few studies have explored male victims' perspectives on sexually coercive tactics used by female perpetrators. Struckman-Johnson and Struckman-Johnson (1998) found that 43% of 318 college men had been subjected to at least one coercive sexual act with a woman since the age of 16. The most frequently cited tactics were verbal coercion (reported by 75% of male victims), being encouraged to get drunk (40%), and threats that the woman would withdraw her love (19%). Only 8% of male victims said that they were physically restrained by a woman. Surveying 182 college men, Fiebert and Tucci (1998) documented that 70% reported being subjected to some form of sexual coercion perpetrated by a woman in the past 5 years. Most of the coercive activities fell into categories labeled mild (e.g., 17% to 39% experienced unwanted sexual touching and kissing) and moderate (e.g., 24% had unwanted sex with an insistent woman). Severe coercion involving a woman's threats or physical force was reported by only 1% to 3% of men.
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a male can sustain an erection even without sexual desire being there... it's a physical act that can be achieved with physical manipulation...
and you know this because........
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a male can sustain an erection even without sexual desire being there... it's a physical act that can be achieved with physical manipulation...
Very true. The point is that it simply doesn't make a differance if the victim is male or female or if the perpertrator is male or female, sexual assault is sexual assault period.
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I'm guessing she has awakened in bed with a man who woke up with a boner.
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Because that's what we tell them when we are lying on the couch with our hand down our pant's
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I'm guessing she has awakened in bed with a man who woke up with a boner.
well, that really blows her immaculate conception image now doesn't it
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because I have a mentally disabled son and this is one of the things I've had to be alerted to... he's fully developed physically, but mentally is about 2 years old, so no interest in females sexually... but the mechanics all work, so in theory he could be physically manipulated to achieve an erection by someone with the proclivity to do such a thing... and to do whatever they wanted afterwards...
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It is an interesting phenomenon-but not a new one. There was this female teacher in Jr. High-MikeW remembers her-that would sit on the table in front of us with her short skirt and fishnets. It just made all the girls sick (okay, except maybe one girl liked it-not me though ). It was rumored that she didn't wear underwear. Double yuck. Many of the guys just loved it. I washed my hands every time I left the classroom. You never knew where she had been sitting, or where that thing had been

There was also the male teacher that everyone knew to stay away from-either female or male. It was known truth not to be in a classroom, or any closed-in space with him.

I also blame it on the school--It fostered that kind of phenomenon/environment. That school did not have a trusting environment. Students who told administration any kind of negative information were publicly humiliated. So, no one spoke up. We all knew not to speak up. Still tees me off thinking about it.
this is very true about not speaking up. I can think of 2 teachers in Jr. High that were questionable...one in particular it was the same thing as you said, Bon, everyone just knew not to stay after school for help from him, ya' know? He was creepy too, normal seeming I guess, but you could just feel the looks innuendo that he gave off.

In Sr. High, a group of girls I was familiar with who 'looked older' or WERE old enough were at a local nightclub when two P.E. teachers came there. One girl (grade 12, but still a student!) was making out with one teacher by the end of the evening. Made for an awkward PE class on Monday. He knew she was his student, he just apparently didn't care or was not thinking straight.

So it happens probably more than we hear about...it's just not always brought to media attention for various reason. Still makes it wrong though.
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Although not as frequently, male victim/female perpertrator cases do occur. "Age of consent" no matter what gender is the letter of the law in every state that I am aware of.

You are correct, about the law concerning the age of consent. I was talking more about how a woman can not force a man to have sex.
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this is very true about not speaking up. I can think of 2 teachers in Jr. High that were questionable...one in particular it was the same thing as you said, Bon, everyone just knew not to stay after school for help from him, ya' know? He was creepy too, normal seeming I guess, but you could just feel the looks innuendo that he gave off.

In Sr. High, a group of girls I was familiar with who 'looked older' or WERE old enough were at a local nightclub when two P.E. teachers came there. One girl (grade 12, but still a student!) was making out with one teacher by the end of the evening. Made for an awkward PE class on Monday. He knew she was his student, he just apparently didn't care or was not thinking straight.

So it happens probably more than we hear about...it's just not always brought to media attention for various reason. Still makes it wrong though.
It is wrong.
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