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Old 11-03-2007   #61 (permalink)
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this is very true about not speaking up. I can think of 2 teachers in Jr. High that were questionable...one in particular it was the same thing as you said, Bon, everyone just knew not to stay after school for help from him, ya' know? He was creepy too, normal seeming I guess, but you could just feel the looks innuendo that he gave off.

In Sr. High, a group of girls I was familiar with who 'looked older' or WERE old enough were at a local nightclub when two P.E. teachers came there. One girl (grade 12, but still a student!) was making out with one teacher by the end of the evening. Made for an awkward PE class on Monday. He knew she was his student, he just apparently didn't care or was not thinking straight.

So it happens probably more than we hear about...it's just not always brought to media attention for various reason. Still makes it wrong though.
I think the media involvement seems to be higher the younger the child... more people will shrug off a 17 year old victim than a 13 year old... the law is the law, though, so the 17 year old in most states can still have the teacher arrested...
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a male can sustain an erection even without sexual desire being there... it's a physical act that can be achieved with physical manipulation...

Hey if a man doesn't want it you aint gonna get it, too simple. Maybe if some sort of date rape drug was involved yo may be able to manipulate things, but that's the only way.
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You are correct, about the law concerning the age of consent. I was talking more about how a woman can not force a man to have sex.
A woman can force a man to have sex. I have investigated and prosecuted such cases. It's called sexual assault.
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Hey if a man doesn't want it you aint gonna get it, too simple. Maybe if some sort of date rape drug was involved yo may be able to manipulate things, but that's the only way.

date rape drug = still rape

or just being physically bigger and stronger... women CAN be bigger than men...
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You are correct, about the law concerning the age of consent. I was talking more about how a woman can not force a man to have sex.
Stogey, go back and look at post #50.
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Here you go Stogey...
The entire article is here:
We found a small number of studies that examined the sexually coercive tactics used by women against men. Expanding upon research by McCormick (1979) on sexual influence strategies, O'Sullivan and Byers (1993) measured whether 112 women had used 44 positive, neutral, or negative strategies to obtain sex from a reluctant male partner. The most frequently reported behaviors were flirtation, touching, compliments, and removing clothing (cited by 45% to 54% of women). Least reported were acts such as trying to get men drank or stoned (cited by 5% of women) and using physical force (3% of women). Anderson and Aymami (1993) measured 212 college women's use of 24 tactics for initiating sexual contact with men. One of the most commonly reported tactics was attempting to arouse the partner (cited by 79% of women). However, about half of the women reported initiating sex with a drunken man, 15% reported getting a man drank or stoned, and 6% reported using physical force. .
I don't kow of any woman a live that is strong enough physically to make me do anything that I do not want to.

To be able to manipualte a male, it would have to be of chemically induced.
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I don't kow of any woman a live that is strong enough physically to make me do anything that I do not want to.

To be able to manipualte a male, it would have to be of chemically induced.

okay, let's say YOU can't be raped... I'll spot you that one... far too big and manly... you win that round...

but there are other men not nearly as impressively physically strong as you who COULD be overpowered by a woman... it HAS happened...

and a boy... a child... at 13 and 14 this is a child... a boy... will be considered a rape victim--even if he is willing--because he is not old enough to make the decision to have consensual sex with an adult... you even said it yourself in the middle school/birth control thread... it is rape when the child is that young...
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A few studies have explored male victims' perspectives on sexually coercive tactics used by female perpetrators. Struckman-Johnson and Struckman-Johnson (1998) found that 43% of 318 college men had been subjected to at least one coercive sexual act with a woman since the age of 16. The most frequently cited tactics were verbal coercion (reported by 75% of male victims), being encouraged to get drunk (40%), and threats that the woman would withdraw her love (19%). Only 8% of male victims said that they were physically restrained by a woman. Surveying 182 college men, Fiebert and Tucci (1998) documented that 70% reported being subjected to some form of sexual coercion perpetrated by a woman in the past 5 years. Most of the coercive activities fell into categories labeled mild (e.g., 17% to 39% experienced unwanted sexual touching and kissing) and moderate (e.g., 24% had unwanted sex with an insistent woman). Severe coercion involving a woman's threats or physical force was reported by only 1% to 3% of men.

First of all I think these males that are coerced by threat of physical force from a woman are wimps to begin with.
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okay, let's say YOU can't be raped... I'll spot you that one... far too big and manly... you win that round...

but there are other men not nearly as impressively physically strong as you who COULD be overpowered by a woman... it HAS happened...

and a boy... a child... at 13 and 14 this is a child... a boy... will be considered a rape victim--even if he is willing--because he is not old enough to make the decision to have consensual sex with an adult... you even said it yourself in the middle school/birth control thread... it is rape when the child is that young...
It has happened to me many times.
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It has happened to me many times.
Sure I believe ya.
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And it's this tee-hee-hee attitude of men that make male rape the most under reported of sexual crimes...
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And it's this tee-hee-hee attitude of men that make male rape the most under reported of sexual crimes...
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And it's this tee-hee-hee attitude of men that make male rape the most under reported of sexual crimes...
Well,i will have you know i have never date raped anyone,i do take things light heartly because they have'nt changed for thousands of years.For the record i am against all sexuall crimes even though i seem like a male chovinist
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Well,i will have you know i have never date raped anyone,i do take things light heartly because they have'nt changed for thousands of years.For the record i am against all sexuall crimes even though i seem like a male chovinist
That would be "chauvenist."
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That would be "chauvinist."
Quite right.
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