French Fried Mess (Political?)

[kirbyfan]

What a mess! They have some serious problems going on and have proven that just throwing money at a problem doesnt solve it.

VILLIERS-LE-BEL, France — Rampaging youths rioted for a second night in Paris' suburbs, firing at officers and ramming burning cars into buildings. At least 80 officers were injured, a senior police union official said Tuesday.

More at the link here

[Rissask]

The lower classes in France are made up of largely black and Muslim immigrants, some legal, some not....like everywhere else in the world, this class is propping up the upper classes so they can live their lives of leisure with the tons of holidays every year and other benefits. (AKA- you and me.)

Naturally they are pissed off and frustrated- wouldn't you be?

And it's not only France, it's everywhere in Europe, Australia, in the US, etc.

It's not surprising this is happening in Europe; what is surprising that it is not happening MORE, and elsewhere.

In 1950 there were 2 poor people for every rich person in the world (based on populations of 'rich' and 'poor' countries).
Today there are four poor people for every rich person on the planet.
In 2025 it's projected there will be 6 poor people for every rich person.
What do you think is going to happen?

[Pok-a-tok]

"l'exception française."

They need another revolution. Them politicians are not doing enough.
Or blame it on hip-hop.

[MWC]

So far it's keeping to the suburbs where mostly immigrants live.
When the violence starts creeping into the "main part" of Paris, it will be disaster. Right now there is so much openness, with restaurants/cafes opening right onto the sidewalks, I think it's wonderful. But that would have to be a source of concern in terms of vulnerability to violence.

[Mexivoof]

I don't know, but your are making me hungry for some Belgian pomme frites with mayo.

[Rissask]

Originally Posted by Mexivoof

I don't know, but your are making me hungry for some Belgian pomme frites with mayo.

Don't bring up Belgium...now they really have problems!

[Opatije]

As Rissask indicated, recent "urban anger" has a lot to do with population and culture, and the growing assimilation of the new immigrants.

[Rissask]

Sorry if I was unclear with my Belgium comment too, this is what I was thinking of.


More stats...in 1950, the 25 countries that are today's EU was population was quite a bit higher than the 25 poorer surrounding countries. Today it is lower, and down the road it is going to be MUCH lower.

And what is the natural outcome wherever you have severe inequities between the rich and the poor?

Hint: it's not peace and tranquility.
And it's becoming a bigger reality all the time globally.

[MWC]

It's not just the money, though, because actually not all that much investment has been put into the suburbs; more than the money, it's the chances for true advancement and assimilation ... splitting hairs, probably, in terms of definition, but there is a distinction. I think the social/economic strata are much more rigid in Europe than, say, the US. (But our time will come)

[Rissask]

Originally Posted by MWC

It's not just the money, though, because actually not all that much investment has been put into the suburbs; more than the money, it's the chances for true advancement and assimilation ... splitting hairs, probably, in terms of definition, but there is a distinction. I think the social/economic strata are much more rigid in Europe than, say, the US. (But our time will come)

Oh for sure our time will come....it already has begun....the numbers of people entering the US and Canada is just a trickle today compared to the flood it will be in the future.
And look how controversial the topic is today already, with all the heated threads posted on this forum about illegal immigration.

Isn't that a big reason why right wing governments in European countries are getting voted in more and more?

(I feel like I should write a disclaimer to avoid any accusations that the above observations are racist....yes, the populations of the poor countries of the world tend to not be white, but that is what it is.
There is nothing at all inherently racist about demographic pressure, and the fact that billions more people in a world with dwindling energy resources will not be a good thing.)