Venezuela and Ecuador vs. Colombia- this might get nasty......

Jo · 03-03-2008

I don't know if anyone followed the events between the three countries recently....... HERE is an article about what happened.
In short Colombia (seen by Venezuelas president as an ally of the US) pursued rebels on Ecuadorian soil via an airattack without asking for permission beforehand- they killed them in an airraid, about 1.8 km into Ecuadorian territory.
Venezuela and Ecuador responded with movement of troops to the boarders and expelling of Colombian diplomats.
Given the different political stances this may get nasty.............although I agree with the articles that I read so far that there will be no full blown war, I am quite sure there will be tension for some time.

StephenB · 03-03-2008

I've been following this. Hopefully it's just a little machismo that will simmmer down. Chavez needs to stfu. The incident didn't occur in Venezuela. He's only making it worse. IMO.

Just Lucky · 03-03-2008

I have been watching the ever increasing flow of arms to the area, provided primarily by the US and Russia, with growing alarm for some time now.

I certainly hope that things will be resolved without further bloodshed.

roni · 03-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Just Lucky

I have been watching the ever increasing flow of arms to the area, provided primarily by the US and Russia, with growing alarm for some time now.

I certainly hope that things will be resolved without further bloodshed.

Brasil needs to sit on those idiots

roni · 03-03-2008

There is a history of conflict between Venezuela and Colombia. All i really know of it is that Gabriel Garcia Marquez's grandfather fought on the Colombian side.

Mr Cancun · 03-03-2008

You think Oliver Stone & Sean Penn might lease a jet to take Hollywood's finest down there to surround & form a human shield around Chavez to stop the imperialist US aggression?

roni · 03-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Mr Cancun

You think Oliver Stone & Sean Penn might lease a jet to take Hollywood's finest down there to surround & form a human shield around Chavez to stop the imperialist US aggression?

I thought he had put in a request for Madonna

jaybird · 03-03-2008

Sure hope the U.S. stays the hell out of it.

mofi · 03-03-2008

Unfortunately that US can't stay out of it or any latin american politics for that matter. The attack was probably paid for by the billions of dollars that the US is providing Colombia for "Plan Colombia" which they insist based purely on drugs, although it would seem more like they are doing it to protect their interests in that region from capture or attack by the guerillas.
Were the Guerillas of Colombian nationality? and if so I wonder if they could have extradited. The Colombian government is really in a tough place because alot of the Farc's movements are in areas where there is not alot of infastructure.
That being said I hope this can be resolved calmly, although I highly doubt it knowing what's happened in the past.

u2girlie · 03-03-2008

oh fantastic...my sister leaves for Ecuador in a few days...my mother will be a wreck!

STOGEY · 03-03-2008

Would it really be all that bad if Chavez and his socialist regime went down for the count?

Just Lucky · 03-03-2008

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Originally Posted by STOGEY

Would it really be all that bad if Chavez and his socialist regime went down for the count?

No doubt Chavez makes some mistakes. Although none as great as when we immediately recognized the military coup, that attempted to overthrow the democratically elected President of Venezuela, as a legitimate government. Kinda makes it look like we backed the coup.

I wonder why the US isn't more popular with Chavez or in Latin America?

local8 · 03-03-2008

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Originally Posted by STOGEY

Would it really be all that bad if Chavez and his socialist regime went down for the count?

Probably would be a problem for Joe Kennedy...and Raoul Castro, and Ahmadinejad

mofi · 03-03-2008

After I saw this post, I decided to ask my boyfriend what he had heard from his family and what he thought about the whole situation. Well what is being reported here is much different then what is being reported in Colombia.
In Colombia, it's being said that the American government ordered the colombian government to take out this guy. According to my boyfriend Raul Reyes is the second most powerful person in the FARC at the current time, and he says that things in Colombia are going to get really ugly really fast without Ecuador and Venezuela getting involved.

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Jo Niiiice!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: With Quincy....... Posts: 5,803	Venezuela and Ecuador vs. Colombia- this might get nasty...... I don't know if anyone followed the events between the three countries recently....... HERE is an article about what happened. In short Colombia (seen by Venezuelas president as an ally of the US) pursued rebels on Ecuadorian soil via an airattack without asking for permission beforehand- they killed them in an airraid, about 1.8 km into Ecuadorian territory. Venezuela and Ecuador responded with movement of troops to the boarders and expelling of Colombian diplomats. Given the different political stances this may get nasty.............although I agree with the articles that I read so far that there will be no full blown war, I am quite sure there will be tension for some time.

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mofi añejo Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Now: Calgary, AB Before: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 2,543	Unfortunately that US can't stay out of it or any latin american politics for that matter. The attack was probably paid for by the billions of dollars that the US is providing Colombia for "Plan Colombia" which they insist based purely on drugs, although it would seem more like they are doing it to protect their interests in that region from capture or attack by the guerillas. Were the Guerillas of Colombian nationality? and if so I wonder if they could have extradited. The Colombian government is really in a tough place because alot of the Farc's movements are in areas where there is not alot of infastructure. That being said I hope this can be resolved calmly, although I highly doubt it knowing what's happened in the past. Last edited by mofi; 03-03-2008 at 03:10 PM..

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StephenB añejo Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York State Posts: 4,033	I've been following this. Hopefully it's just a little machismo that will simmmer down. Chavez needs to stfu. The incident didn't occur in Venezuela. He's only making it worse. IMO.

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Just Lucky link king Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Out On the Edge. Posts: 7,531	I have been watching the ever increasing flow of arms to the area, provided primarily by the US and Russia, with growing alarm for some time now. I certainly hope that things will be resolved without further bloodshed.

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roni Happy Curmudgeon Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 33,019	There is a history of conflict between Venezuela and Colombia. All i really know of it is that Gabriel Garcia Marquez's grandfather fought on the Colombian side.

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Mr Cancun añejo Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Far North Dallas Posts: 1,564	You think Oliver Stone & Sean Penn might lease a jet to take Hollywood's finest down there to surround & form a human shield around Chavez to stop the imperialist US aggression?

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jaybird beachaholic Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Farmington, NM Posts: 423	Sure hope the U.S. stays the hell out of it.

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u2girlie Life=Playa (almost) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Connecticut for now but someday Mexico Posts: 964	oh fantastic...my sister leaves for Ecuador in a few days...my mother will be a wreck!

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STOGEY Allah Akhbar Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: salisbury, mass. Posts: 8,658	Would it really be all that bad if Chavez and his socialist regime went down for the count?

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mofi añejo Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Now: Calgary, AB Before: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 2,543	After I saw this post, I decided to ask my boyfriend what he had heard from his family and what he thought about the whole situation. Well what is being reported here is much different then what is being reported in Colombia. In Colombia, it's being said that the American government ordered the colombian government to take out this guy. According to my boyfriend Raul Reyes is the second most powerful person in the FARC at the current time, and he says that things in Colombia are going to get really ugly really fast without Ecuador and Venezuela getting involved.