A serious question for those who do not believe in God

[Just Lucky]

Originally Posted by Daddy B

I'm sorry, but I just can't accept those who totally abdicate their responsibilities and atribute everything to a god (because they will also blame eveything on the god and to me that's the height of cowardice).

It's just a means to justifying everything by way of outside influence so they can exonerate themselves from anything that happens to their fellow men.

I take it you are not feeling Jah's positive vibrations this evening?

[FrankRN]

Originally Posted by mallen10

Also, not all christians are Catholic, part of the old catholic church broke away, in what is called the reformation.

Yes, I know it well. As I recall, it became the basis for the different sects of christianity that exist today? Talk about politics in religion! I am surprised anyone would point to those events to validate religion as it draws attention to the fact that even Christians can't agree among themselves as to the teachings of Jesus. The reformation also points to another christian bloodbath perpertrated by man in the name of God.

Definately not christianities shining moment.

[melliedee]

Originally Posted by Daddy B

I just don't understand people who have so little respect for their fellow men's abilities as to believe others are worth nothing without gods.

That's all I'm saying, and I've also been up late eating fresh fish I caught today with a bunch of wonderful friends whom I respect for who they are and what they made of themselves without necessarily needing gods to do everything for them.

I decided to wake up three hours earlier than usual to provide my friends with a nice meal so that we could be together and have a good time: I gave them what I could/chose to, they gave me the generosity of sharing and genuinely enjoying it so why the f**k couldn't we have done that without having been influenced by some skanky god??!!

I don't know. I like shellfish, but not fish, fish. Do you think, as someone who knows the ocean, that a prehistoric shark like the Megalodon, could still exist?

I havent been following the God conversation. I"m just up late.

[Daddy B]

Originally Posted by Just Lucky

I take it you are not feeling Jah's positive vibrations this evening?

On the contrary. Although the positive vibrations came from Sheetal, Matan, Denise, Ken, Todd, John, Paula, Ross, my dog Paddy, Ken's dog Chloe and the sweet little chihuaha whose name escapes me at the moment.

[Daddy B]

Originally Posted by melliedee

I don't know. I like shellfish, but not fish, fish. Do you think, as someone who knows the ocean, that a prehistoric shark like the Megalodon, could still exist?

If it existed before, it could still be cruising the depths fighting for daily survival and sustenance: there is plenty of proof it existed, none as to it's extinction.

[melliedee]

Originally Posted by Daddy B

If it existed before, it could still be cruising the depths fighting for daily survival and sustenance: there is plenty of proof it existed, none as to it's extinction.

Yes, it really could still exist. I am very interested in sharks, and afraid of them. And barracudas too.

[horizon200]

Originally Posted by FrankRN

STEWART! Thank you. For over 40 years I thought I was the only one who believed in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I feel strangely redeemed.

Maybe we can petition to have that put on some money too!

But then there would be an argument over with meat sauce or marinara!

Mercy...I have a proposition on the God/Man thing. What if, as I believe most of the bible is, the Jesus being both God and man is a parable as to how to live your life. Singling out one ManGod to use as an example of how we can all live our lives without coveting one another's life, without excesses, without sin. The literal translation that he WAS actually both may in fact be wrong. Along the same lines, the resurrection could mean that you can rise above your past and still live a better life style.
Anyway, that's the way I view the bible. Not a no holds barred book of rules to adhere to and take literally. Rather a guidebook of parables suggesting a simple way to explain life to the masses. Written when stories conveyed a message better then a list of rules. I see organized religion as a few powerful people taking that message to extreme to gain status/wealth/control for themselves and making the masses tow the line according to the bible.
Just as many Christians view Islam as being a totalitarian religion, Christianity was there at one point as well.

Again, just my $.02 worth

[horizon200]

Originally Posted by Daddy B

If it existed before, it could still be cruising the depths fighting for daily survival and sustenance: there is plenty of proof it existed, none as to it's extinction.

Wow what a fitting description on this particular thread! Although we'd have to change extinction to existence.

[Mercy]

Originally Posted by StewartG

Well, if you take offense at the concept of the flying spaghetti monster as a means to illustrate the absurdity of teaching faith as science in public school, I can't really help that.

I can assure you, however, that the idea of the flying spaghetti monster was NOT meant to be insulting, rather, as an affective (and, hopefully, funny) way to make a very valid point.

It was never meant to be insulting, at all, in any way! As I've said, many times, I TOTALLY respect your right to practice your faith as you choose, and would fight like hell ANYONE trying to interfere with that right! At the same time, if you (or anyone else) tries to put your faith in the public classroom, I'm going to fight that as well!

Yes, I do take offense at comments like that, and the highlighted part illustrates that you were indeed trying to impress your friends here and be funny... at mine and other Christians expense. You and others have said many rude and insulting things here and on the other thread (Expelled). Is that your idea of respect? You're a smart man Stewart, you should know better. If I quoted all those comments in would take up a few pages here. So don't you go acting the martyr here in saying, *What did I do?*
I'm going to church now to worship my God, the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, the Creator of the Universe, because He is holy and worthy of all my praise!

BTW, I'm not mad and I'll be back whether you like it or not

PS: Why does Frank keep talking about the Catholics

[Bumper]

Originally Posted by Mercy

I'm going to church now to worship my God, the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, the Creator of the Universe, because He is holy and worthy of all my praise!

BTW, I'm not mad and I'll be back whether you like it or not

Enjoy your Sunday, Mercy, in whatever way you see fit. C'mon back at your leisure. I suspect there's little doubt this will still be going. Lots of folks around who are in love with the sound of their own voice.

[horizon200]

Originally Posted by Bumper

Enjoy your Sunday, Mercy, in whatever way you see fit. C'mon back at your leisure. I suspect there's little doubt this will still be going. Lots of folks around who are in love with the sound of their own voice.

The little voices are always talking to me! Much like the ringing in my ears, I've learned to live with them!

[sctx]

Originally Posted by horizon200

The little voices are always talking to me! Much like the ringing in my ears, I've learned to live with them!

thank god!!!.... I am not alone

[horizon200]

Originally Posted by sctx

thank god!!!.... I am not alone

They are often more boisterous after a few sips!

[Bumper]

Originally Posted by sctx

thank god!!!.... I am not alone

You're all just peed off because the Rice Krispies will only talk to me.

[TJordan]

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