Size 14 Miss England Contestant

[Sol]

Originally Posted by HMH G

Sorry, but this bothers me. Just like "curvy" women don't like being called "fat", skinny girls don't appreciate being called anorexic. I'm 5'7, 110 pounds, and all my life I've been called anorexic. Which, by the way, I'm not and never have been.
I disagree with society trying to push curvier and even overweight models. America already has the highest percentage of obesity. Being overweight, meaty, fat, curvy, heavy, whatever you want to call it isn't and shouldn't be the norm.
Anyway I'm sure I'll get a lot of haters, but I just had to voice my 2 cents.

Not a hater here. Society in general is not advocating for super-sized models; not much has changed. Just take a look at fashion magazines, Hollywood, etc. not too many large women are represented. If the norm is what these magazines project no wonder so many women of all ages are suffering from anorexia and/or bulemia.

[penalipee]

Originally Posted by Tommygurl

PS I don't want to be a hater. I would love to be 110 pounds but it will never happen.
I agree with promoting healthy! Obviously not promoting obesity or overeating....just normal healthy bodys!

OMG Melissa....you are beautiful!!! You are too tall to ever weigh 110lbs!!!! If I weighed that little, I'd look like a stick. That is sooo not attractive. I can't believe you don't look in the mirror and go "damn I'm hot" all the time!!!

[penalipee]

BTW...on America's Next Top Model, the girl that won IS a plus size model. First ever to win. Maybe society is changing their views of pin thin models. I know if I was a guy, I wouldn't want to hug skin and bones. ewww.

[taotoon]

I don't think being a size 14 means a person is bad. Nor does it make a woman fat or overweight in every case. I am a size 14 because my hips to large to fit into anything smaller and because I refuse to starve to be something else. I work out, I eat 90% healthy and I live life well. In fact, when I ask my doctor why I am not losing weight, she asks me why I am trying so hard when I have the BP of an athlete and if my body is not letting it go then it must be the way I was made to be.
There is nothing wrong with some weight on a person just as there is nothing wrong with a naturally skinny person. To me, it is the ideals that cause women and men to go to extreme measures to look like the model on the billboard or it causes a person to doubt their self worth that need to be changes. A person should never feel unworthy or unattractive because they are not within the doctors charts. It annoys me to no end when people think that the changing view on “curvy women” is detrimental. I am sick of being called fat when I am not. Hell, I am healthier then most people with 50 lbs less then me on them.

[SunKneeMarie]

Originally Posted by penalipee

BTW...on America's Next Top Model, the girl that won IS a plus size model. First ever to win. Maybe society is changing their views of pin thin models. I know if I was a guy, I wouldn't want to hug skin and bones. ewww.

careful on the ewwwws there, babe...

[farmgirl]

Originally Posted by taotoon

I don't think being a size 14 means a person is bad. Nor does it make a woman fat or overweight in every case. I am a size 14 because my hips to large to fit into anything smaller and because I refuse to starve to be something else. I work out, I eat 90% healthy and I live life well. In fact, when I ask my doctor why I am not losing weight, she asks me why I am trying so hard when I have the BP of an athlete and if my body is not letting it go then it must be the way I was made to be.
There is nothing wrong with some weight on a person just as there is nothing wrong with a naturally skinny person. To me, it is the ideals that cause women and men to go to extreme measures to look like the model on the billboard or it causes a person to doubt their self worth that need to be changes. A person should never feel unworthy or unattractive because they are not within the doctors charts. It annoys me to no end when people think that the changing view on “curvy women” is detrimental. I am sick of being called fat when I am not. Hell, I am healthier then most people with 50 lbs less then me on them.

This is by far the best post I have read in this topic!!

[Sol]

Originally Posted by taotoon

I don't think being a size 14 means a person is bad. Nor does it make a woman fat or overweight in every case. I am a size 14 because my hips to large to fit into anything smaller and because I refuse to starve to be something else. I work out, I eat 90% healthy and I live life well. In fact, when I ask my doctor why I am not losing weight, she asks me why I am trying so hard when I have the BP of an athlete and if my body is not letting it go then it must be the way I was made to be.
There is nothing wrong with some weight on a person just as there is nothing wrong with a naturally skinny person. To me, it is the ideals that cause women and men to go to extreme measures to look like the model on the billboard or it causes a person to doubt their self worth that need to be changes. A person should never feel unworthy or unattractive because they are not within the doctors charts. It annoys me to no end when people think that the changing view on “curvy women” is detrimental. I am sick of being called fat when I am not. Hell, I am healthier then most people with 50 lbs less then me on them.

Nice post!!!

[Rissask]

Originally Posted by SunKneeMarie

careful on the ewwwws there, babe...

Sheesh Char, don't you know by now that bashing the skinny is the last acceptable form of discrimination left in our society?

I have to agree with Mel and others- I think there IS a movement afoot, toward idealizing more curvy bodies ... Whitney at size ten winning ANTM this season has been mentioned- also Scarlett Johanssen and the actress TG posted a pic of are two that spring to mind.

Men's magazines in particular appear to go for the curvy, lush types like Eva Mendes (great posterior! ) instead of Eva Longoria.

Celeb women who do get dangerously thin are criticized, not adored for it in the media - read what they say about Angelina Jolie (before this last pregnancy), Keira Knightley, Kate Bosworth, Nicole Ritchie and Nicky Hilton sometime, it isn't positive. I don't where that notion even comes from, the idea that very skinny or truly anorexic women are idolized in our society, they aren't, only by other women actually suffering from anorexia maybe.

My only point throughout this thread was that we should be advocating for the healthiest body possible, whatever that is for the individual. I lean toward thinking this girl in the OP would be better off to lose a few pounds, considering her young age and where she is carrying it- and her attitude which seems to be that she is happy with the status quo. If a doctor disagrees with that, so be it.

[farmgirl]

Originally Posted by Rissask

Sheesh Char, don't you know by now that bashing the skinny is the last acceptable form of discrimination left in our society?

I have to agree with Mel and others- I think there IS a movement afoot, toward idealizing more curvy bodies ... Whitney at size ten winning ANTM this season has been mentioned- also Scarlett Johanssen and the actress TG posted a pic of are two that spring to mind.

Men's magazines in particular appear to go for the curvy, lush types like Eva Mendes (great posterior! ) instead of Eva Longoria.

Celeb women who do get dangerously thin are criticized, not adored for it in the media - read what they say about Angelina Jolie (before this last pregnancy), Keira Knightley, Kate Bosworth, Nicole Ritchie and Nicky Hilton sometime, it isn't positive. I don't where that notion even comes from, the idea that very skinny or truly anorexic women are idolized in our society, they aren't, only by other women actually suffering from anorexia maybe.

My only point throughout this thread was that we should be advocating for the healthiest body possible, whatever that is for the individual. I lean toward thinking this girl in the OP would be better off to lose a few pounds, considering her young age and where she is carrying it- and her attitude which seems to be that she is happy with the status quo. If a doctor disagrees with that, so be it.

I think you said it right there Ris!! She is happy!! I know so many people, mostly women, who are going thru life miserable because they are not what society deems as the right size! Sure you might be healthier if you lost a few lbs, but the struggle to do that is hard on a body and a mind, especially if you fail! I think we have to sometimes just accept what we can't change and be happy instead of stressed out your whole life trying to fit in. Healthy mind is the first step to a healthy body!!

[Juanito]

Originally Posted by Nigel Tufnel, David St Hubbins and Derek Smalls

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The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'
That's what I said
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand
Or so I have read

My baby fits me like a flesh tuxedo
I'd like to sink her with my pink torpedo

Big bottom, big bottom
Talk about bum cakes, my girl's got 'em
Big bottom drive me out of my mind
How could I leave this behind?

I met her on Monday, twas my lucky bun day
You know what I mean
I love her each weekday, each velvety cheek day
You know what I mean

My love gun's loaded and she's in my sights
Big game is waiting there inside her tights, yeah

Big bottom, big bottom
Talk about mud flaps, my girl's got 'em
Big bottom drive me out of my mind
How could I leave this behind?

I can't believe this thread went to 7 pages with no Spinal Tap reference.

[Rissask]

Juanito! Total Queen ripoff, the Tap were.

Originally Posted by farmgirl

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I think you said it right there Ris!! She is happy!! I know so many people, mostly women, who are going thru life miserable because they are not what society deems as the right size! Sure you might be healthier if you lost a few lbs, but the struggle to do that is hard on a body and a mind, especially if you fail! I think we have to sometimes just accept what we can't change and be happy instead of stressed out your whole life trying to fit in. Healthy mind is the first step to a healthy body!!

I think you misunderstood what I meant though....of course she should be happy in her own skin, we all should....and naturally being happy is something we should all strive for- it's just when I read she said this:

"I love my body. People seem desperate to get me to say that I don't, that deep down I'm not happy and would rather be thin, but the fact is I wouldn't change myself at all," Marshall told the Daily Mail as she posed in the skimpy white official Miss England bikini for a photoshoot.

it's just a little concerning. It's one thing to accept that you are always going to be 10-15 pounds over your ideal weight, or more, after struggling for some time- that is what is 'normal' for some people no matter how hard they try to lose, and yes- far better to love and accept yourself.


But at 17 for her to already love her body being overweight IMO might be a dangerous attitude for her health later on in life...that's all.

I am sure her health is not suffering at this age, but that could change, just as if she were 20 pounds or so underweight and loved her body like that, and didn't want to change- YKWIM?

[roni]

Sometimes there is just no winning.

I was just looking at a photo of some cheerleaders on some other thread on some other board. One of them had a wee belly that stuck out over her shorts some.

Kathy said "What are you looking at?"

I said "Some cheerleaders. See that one, the one that has a wee belly? There was just a thread on playa.info about skinny and chubby and unhealthy obsession on body image. I like the fact that one or two of these cheerleaders has a little belly, but I am a Sensitive New Age Guy."

Smart-ass woman said:

"Yep, I wake up every morning, look over at you and thank the Gods that I am married to a Sensitive New Age Guy"

Sheesh, I was kidding to start with. I ain't no new age.

Here is the photo.