HE DID IT!!!Obama wins!

[Mexivoof]

Originally Posted by Rissask

McCain is liberal?

You Americans sure must have a different dictionary down there!

It is wierd here, liberals think Mc Cain is too conservative; conservatives think he's too liberal.
But either way, I know he is not as liberal as Obama, and will get my vote unless somehow Hillary prevails in Denver.

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by jaybird

I'm absolutely no fan of McCain's. He's way to liberal. Even less a fan of an ultaliberal. But then the fact is that I don't believe there are many actual conservatives in government. Bush sure isn't one.

You guys pretty much win with either Obama or McCain.

I take it that you did not watch the speech last night that McCain gave? Or the contrast of that one and the one that Obama gave?

[melliedee]

Originally Posted by Mexivoof

It is wierd here, liberals think Mc Cain is too conservative; conservatives think he's too liberal.
But either way, I know he is not as liberal as Obama, and will get my vote unless somehow Hillary prevails in Denver.

Clinton and Obama have nearly identical stances on most social and economic issues. If anything, her healthcare plan is "more liberal" because of the universal mandate. What issue does Obama differ from Hillary on which would make you think he is more liberal than she is?

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by Mexivoof

It is wierd here, liberals think Mc Cain is too conservative; conservatives think he's too liberal.
But either way, I know he is not as liberal as Obama, and will get my vote unless somehow Hillary prevails in Denver.

No so weird really...McCain USED TO BE more moderate until he got into the election cycle and sold out his principles on issue after issue to the conservatives....now, he has found a place to be where neither side is too happy with him.....there will be no good place for him to hide politically speaking...

[Mexivoof]

Originally Posted by melliedee

Clinton and Obama have nearly identical stances on most social and economic issues. If anything, her healthcare plan is "more liberal" because of the universal mandate. What issue does Obama differ from Hillary on which would make you think he is more liberal than she is?

Leave the liberal out; I think either Mc Cain or Billary would be much better qualified to take that "3 AM call" than Obama who has great dreams, but no experience.

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by Jacko

No so weird really...McCain USED TO BE more moderate until he got into the election cycle and sold out his principles on issue after issue to the conservatives....now, he has found a place to be where neither side is too happy with him.....there will be no good place for him to hide politically speaking...

That's true but I figure if McCain miraculously gets elected he'll go back to his old ways. He's never been real loyal.

[ashburnva]

McCain's move to the right during the primary was of less degree than Hillary's move to the left. I don't like McCain - I see him as a media whore, whose positions endear him to the Washington Press. I will (gag) pull the lever for him in November.
That being said both Bush and McCain are conservative on the war and foreign policy, Bush is conservative and McCain liberal on the environment and both are liberal on immigration. Both have done nothing to reduce government though McCain's position on earmarks is a position to admire and contrasts with Bush' s bending over to Congress on spending, government size etc. until 2006.
As for Obama, I assume he will be elected, and I don't think he steps into a bad situation at all if elected. Certainly I don't equate the war on terror with the risks of the cold war, and Bush has done the dirty work, ie. guantanamo, iraq, afghanistan, patriot act, that has significantly degraded the terror threat. So my national security concerns with him are not so significant. That he's pretty much the most liberal member of the Senate does cause me some problems, as I don't think he can cling to his core beliefs while acting on his amorphous promises to "reach out". If he is elected I will give him a chance to fulfill that promise, but dont have any great expectations that will occur.

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by ashburnva

.................. and Bush has done the dirty work, ie. guantanamo, iraq, afghanistan, patriot act, .......................

Well, at least I agree with this little part as redacted....!

[jaybird]

I stole this from another board. I couldn't have said it better.


"An idea floating around that I'm not altogether opposed to.

If McCain won the Presidency with a veto-proof Dem Congress, they are going to run wild, screw everything up severely, and leave McCain to take the blame for it, which is traditional.(see: morons blaming Bush for gas prices.) McCain would be out in one term, and the mood would once again be unfavorable towards Republicans.

OTOH, If Obama wins, the orgy will begin almost within minutes. Not only will the Dem Congress run wild, they will also rubber-stamp Obama to run wild himself, resulting in a stunning combination of Keystone Cop policy making unseen since the Carter years.

We will see only God knows what chaos arise out of the M.E. Every savvy nation on the planet will line up at the "free goodies" booth to be our very best friend, and then promptly vote us the Miss Congeniality prize for the Liberals to put in their trophy case. Domestically, we can expect Carter's old federal speed limits, and thermostat settings to re-emerge, along with the likely prospect of gas rationing. Federal price controls on gas will re-create the shortages, and lines at the pump of the good ol' days. And some sort of completely FUBAR health-care monster will emerge that makes new money for blind people look like a genius idea by comparison. And these few are *only* the beginning.

The point being is in the reality that Reagan would have *never* been elected, had not Carter so completely screwed things up that the electorate was ready to vote in a yellow dog, as long as it was a Republican yellow dog. Why not give the moonbats and their Lion King the whole enchalada to play with, and let history repeat itself? Unlike the moonbats themselves, I'm not going to spend the next four years comparing Obama to Hitler, smugly predicting Obama's impeachment as a "done deal", and pissing and moaning and whining endlessly about the end of the world, the destruction of the country, and a whole new laundry list of calamities that are always "imminent". *Nor* will I keep a close eye under my bed for the conspiracy that Obama and his hand-picked cabinet are part of, intent on "world domination". (har!)

Vote Obama, yay!? pffttt... why not?

gus."

[roni]

Originally Posted by jaybird

I stole this from another board. I couldn't have said it better.

The next time please edit the purloined piece to the point where it is understandable, please

[Mexivoof]

Originally Posted by roni

The next time please edit the purloined piece to the point where it is understandable, please

Hey, I'm agreeing with you on that post

[melliedee]

Originally Posted by jaybird

Why not give the moonbats and their Lion King the whole enchalada to play with, and let history repeat itself?

Vote Obama, yay!? pffttt... why not?

gus."

Do just that, JB. I encourage you to circulate this to as many people as you can. Possibly, you may want to start an internet forward campaign with this! I think it's a grand idea if the right were to "let" us win. Very big of them too. Kind of like throwing the World Series or betting against your team, but hey, whatever gets us the keys back from the crazy man.

Go for it!!

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by roni

The next time please edit the purloined piece to the point where it is understandable, please

So solly. Maybe I'm deranged. I understood it perfectly.

[roni]

Originally Posted by jaybird

So solly. Maybe I'm deranged. I understood it perfectly.

[DBT Fan]

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