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Old 07-04-2008   #1 (permalink)
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BUCHAREST — A court has ordered a Romanian surgeon to pay $795,000 in compensation to a patient whose penis he accidentally severed during an operation.
In July 2004, Naum Ciomu made a surgical error while operating on the man's testicles, severing the penis instead of making an incision to the testicle.
The Bucharest Magistrates Court ruled Friday that Ciomu had been 'superficial' in his approach to the operation, ordered the fine and handed Ciomu a one-year suspended prison sentence. The ruling can be appealed.
A piece of muscle from the man's arm has now been attached to where his penis was, but its function is aesthetic.
'You don't have to be an expert to realize that the 33-year-old victim does not have a good state of mind,' said Mihai Olariu, the victim's lawyer.
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BUCHAREST — A court has ordered a Romanian surgeon to pay $795,000 in compensation to a patient whose penis he accidentally severed during an operation.
In July 2004, Naum Ciomu made a surgical error while operating on the man's testicles, severing the penis instead of making an incision to the testicle.
The Bucharest Magistrates Court ruled Friday that Ciomu had been 'superficial' in his approach to the operation, ordered the fine and handed Ciomu a one-year suspended prison sentence. The ruling can be appealed.
A piece of muscle from the man's arm has now been attached to where his penis was, but its function is aesthetic.
'You don't have to be an expert to realize that the 33-year-old victim does not have a good state of mind,' said Mihai Olariu, the victim's lawyer.
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I am glad you posted this because as you know, here in the US we have NEVER, and I mean NEVER, had any mistakes at hospitals. These things only happen in countries with Socialised medicine.
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I am glad you posted this because as you know, here in the US we have NEVER, and I mean NEVER, had any mistakes at hospitals. These things only happen in countries with Socialised medicine.
True, but I thought that with socialised medicine mistakes such as these would be a thing of the past.

Just like when I travel in Canada. I always thought that there wouldn't be a difference as far as classes of people. However I see just as many people driving around in BMWs and Porches as I do in the States. I also see quite a large number of people driving around in yugos. Maybe in Canada they have car fare.

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True, but I thought that with socialised medicine mistakes such as these would be a thing of the past.

Just like when I travel in Canada. I always thought that there wouldn't be a difference as far as classes of people. However I see just as many people driving around in BMWs and Porches as I do in the States. I also see quite a large number of people driving around in yugos. Maybe in Canada they have car fare.



We only do this sort of thing to patients. Thank God we don't have Socialised medicine, right? I know how you're not too keen on it.


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Any Dr who can't tell a penis from a testicle should be sued.
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Anyone who can't tell the difference between a penis and a testicle shouldn't be a physician.
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True, but I thought that with socialised medicine mistakes such as these would be a thing of the past.

Just like when I travel in Canada. I always thought that there wouldn't be a difference as far as classes of people. However I see just as many people driving around in BMWs and Porches as I do in the States. I also see quite a large number of people driving around in yugos. Maybe in Canada they have car fare.
Where have you seen a Yugo?
Stogey you should know that we are pretty much the same here as in the US, when it comes to classes.
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Something like this JUST HAPPENED in a Boston teaching hospital, though it did not involve a penis. The surgeon operated on the wrong body part. He ignored protocol and policy which would have caught the error before it happened.

The hospitals spin: He was so caught up in how to approach a difficult procedure that he failed to catch the error in time.

I'd say he was not caught up enough in the procedure. Such errors occur all the time in the USA and have absolutely nothing to do with socialized medicine.
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Anyone who can't tell the difference between a penis and a testicle shouldn't be a physician.
I don't know ... I've seen an aweful lot of private parts in my time as an RN. Some people are not as endowed as others and it all blends together ... especially in a cold operating room after you've been anesthetised.
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Something like this JUST HAPPENED in a Boston teaching hospital, though it did not involve a penis. The surgeon operated on the wrong body part. He ignored protocol and policy which would have caught the error before it happened.

The hospitals spin: He was so caught up in how to approach a difficult procedure that he failed to catch the error in time.

I'd say he was not caught up enough in the procedure. Such errors occur all the time in the USA and have absolutely nothing to do with socialized medicine.
When my wife had knee surgery she took a magic marker and wrote "This one " on the correct knee.
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When my wife had knee surgery she took a magic marker and wrote "This one " on the correct knee.

My wife is a CRNA and works all day in the OR. She says she sees that a couple of times a month. Everyone in the OR thinks its pretty smart.

I'm thinking about getting "the big V." If/when I do, should I write "THIS IS MY PENIS - THIS IS NOT PART OF THIS PROCEDURE - DO NOT CUT, REMOVE, MUTILATE OR DISTURB UNDER PENALTY OF SEVERE CIVIL LIABILITY" on my tallywhacker?














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You can write all that on that part?
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My wife is a CRNA and works all day in the OR. She says she sees that a couple of times a month. Everyone in the OR thinks its pretty smart.

I'm thinking about getting "the big V." If/when I do, should I write "THIS IS MY PENIS - THIS IS NOT PART OF THIS PROCEDURE - DO NOT CUT, REMOVE, MUTILATE OR DISTURB UNDER PENALTY OF SEVERE CIVIL LIABILITY" on my tallywhacker?
well.....I would strongly advise against writing "The Big V" down there
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When my wife had knee surgery she took a magic marker and wrote "This one " on the correct knee.
This is actually a national standard which is supposed to be done to ALL patients before ANY surgery. I have personally seen physicians, especially residents, who are running behind or sick of waiting, roll a patient themselves down to an OR instead of waiting for the staff. It must be tough to be so important that the rules don't apply to them.
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