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We have been to Paamul many times since 2004, and it has changed a lot. We have met nice residents there, and we have stayed there for a few days on at least three of those visits. We have gotten to know Martin and Enrique at the restaurant and they take good care of us. We know someone who has lived there for more than a decade.

Our experiences were very different than yours.
When was your last visit Roni? I agree that Martin (and other waiters) are great, but they are just employees of the restaurant. On the other hand, I also agree with casadiva that there are rude locals (that used to rarely even go to Paamul) and that’s it has become overcrowded and expensive. Not only is everything expensive, the food isn’t even very good anymore. I know a few residents that don’t even eat there because of the high prices and poor food quality.

I know it sounds like I’m bashing Paamul, but it’s only because it used to be a nice, beautiful, semi-secluded place that had a special charm. That is no longer the case and the change has been dramatic and quite recent - within the last year or 2. It’s nothing personal, I’m just sad to see another gem lose its charm in the name of $. I never thought I’d see it turn into a beach club, but if that’s what they want, it’s their village. I just think the way it is now is much less appealing than it was before...
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We were there within the past year.

There is no doubt Paamul has changed, along with most of the rest of the Riviera Maya.

We generally stay away now, prefering a small island not far from Cancun, and Isla Mujeres. We also enjoy Mahahual, more specifically the beach road north of there, and Xcalak. Those are farther away from where we live, though, but not too much farther if we drive down the center of the península to Fellipe Carillo Puerto.

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When was your last visit Roni? I agree that Martin (and other waiters) are great, but they are just employees of the restaurant. On the other hand, I also agree with casadiva that there are rude locals (that used to rarely even go to Paamul) and that’s it has become overcrowded and expensive. Not only is everything expensive, the food isn’t even very good anymore. I know a few residents that don’t even eat there because of the high prices and poor food quality.

I know it sounds like I’m bashing Paamul, but it’s only because it used to be a nice, beautiful, semi-secluded place that had a special charm. That is no longer the case and the change has been dramatic and quite recent - within the last year or 2. It’s nothing personal, I’m just sad to see another gem lose its charm in the name of $. I never thought I’d see it turn into a beach club, but if that’s what they want, it’s their village. I just think the way it is now is much less appealing than it was before...
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Nor sure why people would expect a whole lot from what is essentially a trailer park. One of the cooler ones you will see but a trailer park, nonetheless.

People like to play the "I am hip to the latest spot" and used to namedrop Paamul and Playa Secreto. Then, it was Xpu-Ha and Tulum. Now, it is Holbox (which will be a trash dump in 5 years if something isn't done to keep visitors to a manageable number) or Isla Mujeres (already overcrowded and full of litter). The thing about Paamul is that it won't change much. Some may see some changes but it is still a trailer park on the Caribe. Not many of those around. The beaches of Mexico are rightly open to all. Complaining about "locals" (i.e., Mexicans) for enjoying what is rightfully theirs seems kind of strange to me. Family day at the beach is a beautiful thing, IMHO. I guess some like their beaches empty but unless you are Richard Branson, you might want to lower your expectations a bit.
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To be clear, when I said "locals" I meant the complete asshole French Canadian. Jacque, "millionaire restaurant owner" by his own description. I live with natives on Coz. Nice place.
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Paamul has changed quite a bit in the 14 years we have been stopping by. A friend has lived there for 13 of those years. There are now regular houses being built that the owners are asking hundreds of thousands of dollars for (at least for one of them).

The cabañas have been torn down and a second hotel complex is going up. Most things change.
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Paamul has changed quite a bit in the 14 years we have been stopping by. A friend has lived there for 13 of those years. There are now regular houses being built that the owners are asking hundreds of thousands of dollars for (at least for one of them).

The cabañas have been torn down and a second hotel complex is going up. Most things change.
But not real fast. Things happen slowly here due to the powers that be.

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Gosh, maybe the day of the week or season matters, but there were not many people there the day we were. A group of expats did their water aerobics in the bay and there were a couple of other groups but we had a wonderful leisurely walk to the south along the iron shore and a delicious lunch. I didn't see a lot out snorkeling but I was afraid to go out too far my myself. Still, just a lovely day.
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Personally, I would avoid Paamul. It has become an overcrowded mess in my opinion. The pool, beach and bay are filled with kids and families and there seems to be little regard for keeping things clean and orderly. It used to be a wonderful hidden gem, but now it is a loud, dirty place where large groups (families) of people go and hang out all day.

The last couple of times we went there it was so bad, we left and went elsewhere. Screaming kids, filthy pool, loud music, no available chairs, etc. Even some residents of Paamul I talked to said it has become terrible.

YMMV, but for us,
Curious when you were here and what day of the week? Sundays have ALWAYS been crazy and still are. It IS the day when Mexican families come to visit and the restaurant and pool area are nearly always crowded. However, if you'd walked 500 yards south, you'd probably have had the entire beach almost to yourself. And, if you'd come on a Monday, you likely would have had the beach/restaurant/pool to yourselves as well.

We enjoy DELICIOUS food at the restaurant at least once a week and their margaritas are still the tastiest (and STRONGEST) that I've ever had the good fortune to drink!

(And, honestly, unless a musical or exercise event is scheduled, I NEVER hear loud music there, EVER! )

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Paamul was the worst place we visited driving all over Mexico. Unbelievably rude "locals," expensive and crowded. People living in 5th wheels with palapa covers thinking they are in beach front mansions, seemingly terrified of being in Mexico ("Oh we never leave unless it is to the airport...").

What a sad place to experience Mexico.
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To be clear, when I said "locals" I meant the complete asshole French Canadian. Jacque, "millionaire restaurant owner" by his own description. I live with natives on Coz. Nice place.
I've lived here 14 years and, although there was once a French Canadian neighbor named Jacque, he sold timeshares, and he has not lived here in about 5 years. And, honestly, except for the few caravan-ers who come here, there are barely any 5th wheels or other types of RVs in Paamul anymore. Most folks live in permanent structures under a palapa roof. Things have changed a LOT. Also, I have no neighbors who seem terrified of being in Mexico - most of them drive all over the peninsula without worry. A large percentage of my neighbors belong to a service club who travel into jungle villages to help the locals with infrastructure, education, and other needs and most are very adventurous folks.

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Nor sure why people would expect a whole lot from what is essentially a trailer park. One of the cooler ones you will see but a trailer park, nonetheless.

People like to play the "I am hip to the latest spot" and used to namedrop Paamul and Playa Secreto. Then, it was Xpu-Ha and Tulum. Now, it is Holbox (which will be a trash dump in 5 years if something isn't done to keep visitors to a manageable number) or Isla Mujeres (already overcrowded and full of litter). The thing about Paamul is that it won't change much. Some may see some changes but it is still a trailer park on the Caribe. Not many of those around. The beaches of Mexico are rightly open to all. Complaining about "locals" (i.e., Mexicans) for enjoying what is rightfully theirs seems kind of strange to me. Family day at the beach is a beautiful thing, IMHO. I guess some like their beaches empty but unless you are Richard Branson, you might want to lower your expectations a bit.
You have maybe not been here for awhile either. As I said above, there are very few folks who live in trailers here, other than the ones who pull in for a short stay.

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Gosh, maybe the day of the week or season matters, but there were not many people there the day we were. A group of expats did their water aerobics in the bay and there were a couple of other groups but we had a wonderful leisurely walk to the south along the iron shore and a delicious lunch. I didn't see a lot out snorkeling but I was afraid to go out too far my myself. Still, just a lovely day.
^^^And THIS is Paamul!^^^

I keep intending to re-do the original post on this thread. Things have changed SO much since then, but Paamul is still a delightful, unique, relatively inexpensive, beautiful spot on a peaceful bay on the Caribbean with easy-access from the US and Canada. There is nowhere else in this world you can get so much for so little that I'm aware of. I STILL love it and have no regrets about having lived here nearly 14 years!

(By the way, homes here are selling like hotcakes recently, so apparently there are a LOT of people who think things are just fine here in Paamul!)
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Fact. The restaurants is stupidly expensive even with the “resident” discount.
And the margaritas? Honestly there is something as too strong. Too tart and too much tequila. Offer me two for half the price each. Unless one’s aim is to get trashed with a highball sized margarita. And I requested nine years ago that they add bar stools to the bar. Did it ever happen?

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Fact. The restaurants is stupidly expensive even with the “resident” discount.
And the margaritas? Honestly there is something as too strong. Too tart and too much tequila. Offer me two for half the price each. Unless one’s aim is to get trashed with a highball sized margarita. And I requested nine years ago that they add bar stools to the bar. Did it ever happen?
What other beachfront restaurant prices can you compare it to? Similar food with lower prices?

For me, those margaritas hit the spot. I want only one, but I'm lovin' that one!

Nope, no bar stools or swings yet. And I agree they're seriously missing the boat on that front. Lots of people would go there alone if there was a bar to sit at.

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I dunno... I'd kinda call this one a mansion. Casa del Mar, $599,000 USD
Not that it makes any sense to me, but it IS gorgeous. I've been in it.

It was featured on HGTV's House Hunter's Intl.

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What other beachfront restaurant prices can you compare it to? Similar food with lower prices?

For me, those margaritas hit the spot. I want only one, but I'm lovin' that one!

Nope, no bar stools or swings yet. And I agree they're seriously missing the boat on that front. Lots of people would go there alone if there was a bar to sit at.

I dunno... I'd kinda call this one a mansion.
Not that it makes any sense to me, but it IS gorgeous. I've been in it.

It was featured on HGTV's House Hunter's Intl.
No doubt the margaritas are strong. Just a bit too strong for me.
And, regardless of the fact that it’s beachfront....it is Paamul.
I thought it was expensive and I was there when the dollar to peso was crap
Having said that - it was good food.
Cheaper food at Lido and Wah Wah.

The video won’t open for me.

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No doubt the margaritas are strong. Just a bit too strong for me.
And, regardless of the fact that it’s beachfront....it is Paamul.
I thought it was expensive and I was there when the dollar to peso was crap
Having said that - it was good food.
Cheaper food at Lido and Wah Wah.

The video won’t open for me.
Had to chuckle at this - the secret ingredient to my Margarita recipe is . . . . . . . . . Water. Go figure. I've been perfecting my Marg for years, and not until recently did I discover the secret. Splash of ice cold water. Try it buba
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