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Old 08-12-2008   #31 (permalink)
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Reminds me of a documentary I saw on Miami in the 80's. It was a war zone during the reign of Pablo Escobar.

A truly unfortunate series of events for police in Mexico. A very complicated situation to say the least. No easy answer.
On the other hand, Playa has one main road leading in and one main road leading out, and viceversa...

That would be a good basis from which to start, but then again what do I know?
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Drug wars are raging as 41 have been executed in Mexico since Sunday. The director of police in PDC was one of the murdered.
Diario PorEsto! - 41 ejecutados
you're about a day late on this one
Here's the thread
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How disheartening. I guess it really is a problem all over the country.

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The police killings in Puerto Vallarta started last month with targeted murders of high ranking officials; within a few days there were machine gun battles in neighborhoods between gangs and gangs and police and gangs. The army is now running security there and they have captured a number of Colombian gangsters.

There has also been public shootouts in Ixtapa, a couple of tourists were hit by stray bullets due to drug warfare in Acapulco, a hand grenade went off in a tourist area in Zihua, an entire family was executed right in front of a group of shocked tourists in Barra di Potosi, head of drug lords were found propped at the side of a road near Cabo, police and military have been getting shot like flies...there may be a lot of drug related violence but it is not the police getting targeted here like it is in Mexico. It's very serious.

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here's some photos from a local site in the Mayan Riviera:

Galerías: Ejecución en Playa del Carmen

you can see in the second photo the two empty ammo clips on the ground.

Lord have mercy on us.

This is nuts.


Some of those pictures are truly terrifying. I can only imagine what first time visitors to the area must have thought when they saw all the armed men and road blocks. I'm not prone to hysteria but this can't be good PR for the area.
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Some of those pictures are truly terrifying. I can only imagine what first time visitors to the area must have thought when they saw all the armed men and road blocks. I'm not prone to hysteria but this can't be good PR for the area.
Well, Army checkpoints are pretty normal, so I'm sure it probably didn't seem out of the ordinary. Yucatreks tours went out yesterday to Tulum and didn't notice anything unusual about the way the checkpoints were handled and weren't affected by any traffic back ups. They were specifically looking for the dark-colored Suburbans (because I'm sure they wouldn't have ditched those vehicles if they were trying to "escape" the city).

The shootout itself occurred in an area the average tourist will never see. Still a freaky happening, don't get me wrong.
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Well, Army checkpoints are pretty normal, so I'm sure it probably didn't seem out of the ordinary. Yucatreks tours went out yesterday to Tulum and didn't notice anything unusual about the way the checkpoints were handled and weren't affected by any traffic back ups. They were specifically looking for the dark-colored Suburbans (because I'm sure they wouldn't have ditched those vehicles if they were trying to "escape" the city).

The shootout itself occurred in an area the average tourist will never see. Still a freaky happening, don't get me wrong.
You're probaby right Heather and maybe it didn't look quite as bad as I visualized. It's hard, very hard to comprehend from afar but you have a good set of objective eyes!
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Heather- as you were wondering about the location: some of the articles I read online said it was in the colosio, 76th between 15th and 20th.

First and foremost this is horrible.

But in all honesty: for anyone who has been watching closely over the years this is not that much of a (very sad) surprise. I remember when I was down last year one of the bosses of the airport got executed as he mingled with the narcotrafficos. And I remember how we had an article on here a while back about another police officer having been executed.
The executions are rare but they have been happening again and again for years.
As long as there is demand there will be drug traffic- and there will, unfortunately, be executions I fear.

On the other hand and in all reality this has nothing to do with the tourists life down there, neither with the ones of the "normal" citizens.
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You're probaby right Heather and maybe it didn't look quite as bad as I visualized. It's hard, very hard to comprehend from afar but you have a good set of objective eyes!
I can't imagine how horrified the man's neighbors must be. The asst. chief was just leaving his home, in a residential neighborhood. And there are always kids running around, playing...I shudder to think what might have happened to any innocent bystanders.
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Heather- as you were wondering about the location: some of the articles I read online said it was in the colosio, 76th between 15th and 20th.
This is a VERY different location from what was mentioned in the paper yesterday. I did hear on the radio that it was in the colosio, so the address you have seems more likely.
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I agree, Becky. And hopefully the US can get a handle on their drug problem so that the middle men in Mexico won't find it so important to protect their livelihood.

This is a global issue, not just a Mexican issue.
Heather are the drugs just being ran through Mexico? And I am not just talking about what may be happening in PDC......I mean they are not making the cocaine there right? It is just moving through there coming from further south on it's way into the USA.......
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This is a VERY different location from what was mentioned in the paper yesterday. I did hear on the radio that it was in the colosio, so the address you have seems more likely.
Said so somewhere in those lengthy articles in the online Por Esto.
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Very sad and upsetting news our thoughts and prays go out to the family
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Heather are the drugs just being ran through Mexico? And I am not just talking about what may be happening in PDC......I mean they are not making the cocaine there right? It is just moving through there coming from further south on it's way into the USA.......
Someone was just talking about this today: that this area used to be a big "ruta" for cocaine (before it was so populated), but that now another narco-route had opened elsewhere. The person said that shipments of cocaine from countries farther south would wash up here, to be collected and moved along northward. I have no knowledge of the veracity of this at all, however.
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