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Old 11-06-2008   #61 (permalink)
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I don't think anyone was speculating about anything, just trying to figure out why the papers' stories don't match up.

I agree with Dijo's take on it -and if I were her I would have done the same thing, likely.


I hope the family and friends of Mark get some kind of closure to the situation soon, hopefully positive.


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Old 11-06-2008   #62 (permalink)
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I'll be in Playa in Dec. and we'll keep our eyes/ears open for any news! Wish the family the best of luck!
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Old 11-07-2008   #63 (permalink)
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Please, I implore everyone to remain supportive and sensitive to this ongoing tragedy and to please remember there are family members who are watching and reading these threads. I know, I am friends of friends of the family. Having just returned from Playa myself less than 2 weeks ago, this continues to give me goosebumps knowing I was just there and walked the very same streets thinking I was always safe in such a densely populated tourist zone.

While keeping Robins privacy in mind, and being privy to some inside information, I think it should also be noted to please take everything you read in the press out of Mexico with a grain of salt. Some details of his disappearance are simply not true. And would like to go on record and say there was "NO FIGHT" just prior to the disappearance.

Lets make every effort to keep this tragedy alive and in the forefront in the minds of all Canadians, and not fall of the radar, where we just forget about it. Remind any of your friends who may me traveling to keep an eye open for him. Pressure our consulate to keep pushing the local authorities for their assistance in keeping the search alive.

More and more we are hearing about Canadians who are traveling to Mexico getting into trouble. Whether it be getting assaulted, robbed, falsely imprisoned, or disappearing. Such as the current case. And sadly these incidents either go unreported to the general press, or the Mexican authorities squash the information for fear of it hurting the tourism industry.
There are real people behind all of these events with real friends and family back home. We need to begin putting more pressure on our government to ensure, that as Canadians....we are protected from events like this.

Please keep Robin, along with all of her family and friends in your thoughts and prayers.

Hoping for the best
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Old 11-07-2008   #64 (permalink)
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Thanks for the update Mark.

I certainly did not intend to offend anyone and get so frustrated with the press and their lack of factual reporting.

We have friends leaving next week for that general area, so will pass the picture and information along.

Hoping and praying for the best!!!!
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I think it is pretty hard to assume any wrongdoing at all based on what little information any of us reading this thread have been given.


Mark- are you saying it is not possible he left the resort and ended up accidentally drowning in the ocean? Would that not be the most likely thing to have happened?

People are far more likely to be hurt or killed in some sort of accident than and act of random violence in Mexico, just like at home.

I am not trying to be argumentative, but everyone has been very vague from both sides, in this case.
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I certainly did not intend to offend anyone and get so frustrated with the press and their lack of factual reporting.

We have friends leaving next week for that general area, so will pass the picture and information along.

Hoping and praying for the best!!!!
Im sorry if I left the impression that anyone was offended. That is not the case within this forum. Infact I have been impressed with the amount of logical thinking, and process's of elimination that has been demonstrated here. It is just very frustrating to see no new information or progress coming out of this. My main disappointment also rests on the shoulders of our government for not insisting on more resources be allocated to this. If this was happening in any North American city.....we'd see more being done without everyone worrying about politics and who, or which level of government was feeling slighted. Anyhoot, this isnt about politics...its about someone who is loved and dearly missed not coming home. Sorry to have gotten of track.
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I think it is pretty hard to assume any wrongdoing at all based on what little information any of us reading this thread have been given.


Mark- are you saying it is not possible he left the resort and ended up accidentally drowning in the ocean? Would that not be the most likely thing to have happened?

People are far more likely to be hurt or killed in some sort of accident than and act of random violence in Mexico, just like at home.

I am not trying to be argumentative, but everyone has been very vague from both sides, in this case.
Hi Rissask, and thank you for your post. In regards to the possibility that he may have accidentally perished in the ocean, I for one would find this very difficult to fathom. Im a very frequent traveler to this very specific area and know it intimately well (2-3) per year infact. The area in which Mark went missing is in a very, very busy beach area. With the Cozumel ferry dock only meters away, the main ticket booths for boarding equally as far, and 100's of buskers, not to mention the very shallow depths of water in that area, how someone could find themselves in sudden trouble and not be able to call out for help, or make enough noise not to get noticed. Additionally, and this is the real kicker....there is a Coast Guard Military post right there on the beach front, with a visual watch of the waterfront 24/7. There is no mistaking their presence. Its very intimidating to anyone who see's it for the first time. I just cant see this happening. Mark left the hotel with nothing but a pair of shorts and a towel. No I.D - No Credit Cards - No Cash and No Passport. He has simply vanished out of thin air in front of hundreds. Its completely insane. Secondly, you are correct in stating "People are far more likely to be hurt or killed in some sort of accident than and act of random violence in Mexico, just like at home". However how the government, the press and the military report things as fact.....is inaccurate and completely false. There is a huge 'underground mandate' to cover up things or events that might scare off the tourism industry. And I can say this without a shred of hesitance. They demonstrated this fact while I was there this trip, where it was reported that 3 women (not 2, which was infact the truth) women fell to their death while Para-sailing in Akumal. It was also reported that they fell to the water, and one managed to survive by swimming to shore, while the other 2 fell to their death when hitting the rocky shoreline. I know the truth, since I was there. I had just completed my own tandem sail. The rope simply broke at 500 feet, and they hit the street below after being carried a distance in the wind, crashed through some hydro lines and trees and landed on each other on the sidewalk. I know these are gruesome details to be talking about....but the reporting of this event, including even having the wrong location was reported were completely false. This leads to credibility with the officials and the government of Mexico. Where is Mark, and why haven't they been able to do more? What is really being done? What resources are being used? Which level of government is still actively looking for him? We need answers. We need to apply more pressure. We, all of us, have the right to demand more be done. And we have an obligation to make sure this doesn't fall off the radar screens of world and the press. Just because its old news doesn't mean its not important anymore. I know, I apologize....going off on a bit of a tangent here, but I feel completely let down we cant do more, or expect more than what is currently being done for Robin and her family by our own government and consulate in Cancun. And I am acutely aware of the pain its causing the rest of their friends. In closing, I am not pointing the finger at anyone within this forum for being wrong with impression, their opinions, or their feelings. We are all entitled to those, and for each to be different. I never thought you were being argumentative....Im glad to see this topic is provoking debate and challenge. This process incites change. And that is always a healthy process, and sometimes it even manages to lands on the desk of those who are responsible for bringing about the change to a process, and helps keep the problem alive and forefront so that we don't forget. As sometimes happens when there is a lack of sensationalism to the story. Thank you for contributing....always appreciated to hear from someone who wants step up!! M
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This just break my heart! So did he walk away from the hotel in daylight hours?

Does the family have any idea what "might" have happened? Does anyone know for SURE he was not arrested for something?

I will continue to pray and think good thoughts.
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Yes, the mexican government does have a bad reputation for "looking the other way"... Just like in the case of the Women in Juarez/Chihuahua.... There has been almost 800+ women killed in the area around the American factories there since 1993. They have only made a few arrests, and there have also been various "suspects"... including police officers... but the mystery still continues as to who is doing it and the killings also continue. It is a shame that even the government covers such a horrific thing up.

I really do hope and pray that he will be found safe and sound soon!
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Everytime i see a new reply to this thread, i hope and pray that this guy has been found safe and sound. I sure hope and pray that he will be.
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Everytime i see a new reply to this thread, i hope and pray that this guy has been found safe and sound. I sure hope and pray that he will be.
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Our thoughts are with Mark's family. What a horrible situation. I hope that he is found and desperately hope in some way that there can be a happy ending to this.
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I am so sorry Mark, I hope you and Robin and the rest of Mark's family and friends achieve some type of closure, and soon.

This really is every vacationing family's nightmare, no matter where in the world we're speaking of.

I hope this mystery is solved soon.....you should understand, I am not being an apologist for shoddy investigations or corruption; I, like many other Canadians, love Mexico and it's people, for all it's faults.....I just want people to feel safe while still being aware that sometimes things happen when our guard is down..... my hope is for closure for all, and soon.
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Everytime i see a new reply to this thread, i hope and pray that this guy has been found safe and sound. I sure hope and pray that he will be.
I agree .....
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Old 11-07-2008   #75 (permalink)
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Mark as a concerned Canadian, know that his family and friends are in our prayers. Have you put pressure on your local MLA, I mean daily phone calls etc. until they get our Government involved in this case. Having multiple persons, family and friends putting extreme pressure on your MLA to get the help you deserve. I would also contact your local news stations and papers to apply pressure also with the Government.
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