Presidential Campaign: 2012

[melliedee]

The white house is scrambling to distance themselves from Dem media pundit Hillary Rosen's idiotic comments about Ann Romney. Everyone from the DNC to the campaign staff is rightly throwing Rosen under the bus for her moronic statement.

President Obama weighed in:

President Obama strongly disagreed with Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen’s controversial comment about Ann Romney, saying today that “there’s no tougher job than being a mom.”

“Anybody who would argue otherwise, I think, probably needs to rethink their statement,” the president told Bruce Aune of ABC’s Cedar Rapids affiliate KCRG.

Even the First Lady got in on the discussion:

Every mother works hard, and every woman deserves to be respected.

GOP standard bearer, Mitt Romney, when right wing media pundit, Rush Limbaugh, launched a three day attack on a college student who wanted to speak at an all male contraception panel, calling her a "slut," a "prostitute," and suggesting that she release a sex tape online:

“I’ll just say this, which is, it’s not the language I would have used.

[melliedee]

Not wanting to be overshadowed by Romney's support of the assault weapons ban and Brady bill as governor.................wait, sorry, wrong year.............Not wanting to be overshadowed by Romney's severe and steadfast love of the NRA, Newt goes to the moon. Again.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich says the United Nations should adopt a treaty giving everyone on the planet the right to bear firearms.

Newt Gingrich: United Nations Should Adopt Treaty To Give Everyone On Earth Gun Rights

[ProfessorPibil]

Originally Posted by horizon200

I don't know enough about the Icelandic situation. But, is there no personal responsibility? Everyone gets a free pass?

RH is quoting some nutter right wing site. In reality the debt forgiveness is far more limited in scope than he wants you to think.

It's also worthwhile looking at what the Icelandic Krona has been doing just to put things in perspective:

XE.com - ISK/USD Chart

Ouch.

[bearcat]

Originally Posted by melliedee

Not wanting to be overshadowed by Romney's support of the assault weapons ban and Brady bill as governor.................wait, sorry, wrong year.............Not wanting to be overshadowed by Romney's severe and steadfast love of the NRA, Newt goes to the moon. Again.



Newt Gingrich: United Nations Should Adopt Treaty To Give Everyone On Earth Gun Rights

It is often difficult to differentiate pandering from lunacy with Newts statements. I think this is a lot of both.

[melliedee]

Presidential hopeful Mitt Romney, who once strapped his dog to the roof of the family station wagon before embarking on a road trip, has again chosen to thumb his nose at the all-important dog vote by throwing a fundraising birthday party for his wife Ann at the house of Frederick Malek III. While to most people, Malek is just another rich guy who respects Romney's Reaganesque hair, to dogs, Malek is a living terror — when he was a youth, he was arrested for animal cruelty after police discovered that he and some friends had killed and barbecued a dog.

Eventually, Frederick Malek and his buddies sheepishly admitted that they'd been drinking earlier that night, and one of the group admitted to beating, killing, and preparing the dog for the spit in some sort of totally ****ed up attempt to teach his friends about living off the land. Malek swore he had nothing to do with the dog murder, aside from the fact that he just stood around while his friend ****ing beat a dog to death.

Not an unbiased source, I admit. But the story jumped out at me.

Ann Romney's Birthday Party to Be Hosted by a Dude Arrested for Barbecuing a Dog

[jeffandbecky]

You failed to mention that the incident took place in 1959. What is more amusing are the comments on the "article", definitely out in fringe land.

[roni]

Originally Posted by jeffandbecky

You failed to mention that the incident took place in 1959. What is more amusing are the comments on the "article", definitely out in fringe land.

People all over the world eat a little dog.

Hopefully the recipe has improved

I'll have to look at the comments.

[jeffandbecky]

Originally Posted by roni

People all over the world eat a little dog.

Hopefully the recipe has improved

I'll have to look at the comments.

Decades ago, a friend of mine from South Korea was very disappointed to learn what hotdogs were made of.

[roni]

Originally Posted by jeffandbecky

Decades ago, a friend of mine from South Korea was very disappointed to learn what hotdogs were made of.

We had a butcher not far from us in Brasil charged with mixing dog meat with his ground beef. We never patronized him, but he was just a few blocks from our house in Alto da Lapa, São Paulo.

[melliedee]

Originally Posted by roni

People all over the world eat a little dog.

Hopefully the recipe has improved

I'll have to look at the comments.

The article doesn't mention if the men actually ate the dog. Also, in countries where they do eat dogs, I don't think they first beat them to death with two by fours while a circle of drunken friends watch.

But it did happen a long time ago; Malek was only 22:

Why, some readers may certainly ask, should they be taken back to an incident that occurred nearly 50 years ago, when Malek and his friend O'Meara had just graduated from West Point? What is the relevance of that to today's Fred Malek, patron of the arts, fundraiser for charitable events, prospective owner of the Washington Nationals baseball team?

Similar questions may have been raised after a recent column ["Fred Malek, Then and Now," Feb. 4] that recounted Malek's abuse of the public trust and public servants during the Nixon years and his role in carrying out Richard Nixon's disgusting hunt for Jews in the Bureau of Labor Statistics. He was only in his thirties at the time, his friends say in his defense.

Okay, but consider this e-mail that arrived after the column ran:

"Dear Mr. King -- Thanks. Joel Popkin. One of those 13 Jews Malek identified."

Is there a continuum of behavior whose parts cannot be separated from the whole Malek?

There was the dog killing in Peoria in the '50s, the Senate Watergate Committee in the '70s, the doomed nomination to be a governor of the U.S. Postal Service in the '80s, and now the Securities and Exchange Commission action in 2004.

Colbert I. King - Fred Malek, a Dog and the SEC

[Robinhood]

Originally Posted by ProfessorPibil

RH is quoting some nutter right wing site. In reality the debt forgiveness is far more limited in scope than he wants you to think.

It's also worthwhile looking at what the Icelandic Krona has been doing just to put things in perspective:

XE.com - ISK/USD Chart

Ouch.

Icelandic Anger Brings Debt Forgiveness in Best Recovery Story - Bloomberg Another right wing nutter site. Do you PP actually know how the reserve banking system works or do you just spew crap accusations about conspiracy like your liberal brothers. Why don't you give us a brief synopsis on the federal reserve system and why you support it? For any one who really cares here is a great start which simplifies it.

Dishonest Money - Honest VS Dishonest Money Read the whole book and tell me we are not being screwed by the big banks

[ProfessorPibil]

Originally Posted by Robinhood

Icelandic Anger Brings Debt Forgiveness in Best Recovery Story - Bloomberg Another right wing nutter site. Do you PP actually know how the reserve banking system works or do you just spew crap accusations about conspiracy like your liberal brothers. Why don't you give us a brief synopsis on the federal reserve system and why you support it? For any one who really cares here is a great start which simplifies it.

Dishonest Money - Honest VS Dishonest Money Read the whole book and tell me we are not being screwed by the big banks

In Bloomberg:

easing the debt burdens of more than a quarter of the populatio

So already we're not in debt forgiveness land, we're just in debt reduction land.

Also, the banks were just self-serving - they reduced the debt because without doing so, household debt in Iceland was at 240% of income, more than twice US levels, alomst three times really after the population had already suffered a huge hit through currency devaluation.

I support the existence of a mostly independent central bank (be it the fed, the ECB, the bank of israel, or whatever) because it's been demonstrated (see the document above) that such banks are crucial liquidity providers at times of crisis, and that they've been able, time and time again, to moderate crises and avoid unnecessary economic destruction. Of course they don't always succeed, but there are very few cases where a country would have been better off without its central bank.

If you believe the years from mid 2007 until now would have been better without the central banks then please let me know how you believe things would have played out.

[Mikey]

Originally Posted by ProfessorPibil

In Bloomberg:



So already we're not in debt forgiveness land, we're just in debt reduction land.

Also, the banks were just self-serving - they reduced the debt because without doing so, household debt in Iceland was at 240% of income, more than twice US levels, alomst three times really after the population had already suffered a huge hit through currency devaluation.

I support the existence of a mostly independent central bank (be it the fed, the ECB, the bank of israel, or whatever) because it's been demonstrated (see the document above) that such banks are crucial liquidity providers at times of crisis, and that they've been able, time and time again, to moderate crises and avoid unnecessary economic destruction. Of course they don't always succeed, but there are very few cases where a country would have been better off without its central bank.

If you believe the years from mid 2007 until now would have been better without the central banks then please let me know how you believe things would have played out.

Populatio? Is that Italian?

[ProfessorPibil]

Originally Posted by Mikey

Populatio? Is that Italian?

Of course. In Icenlandic it'd have been þðþúlatð

[ryberg]

Originally Posted by ProfessorPibil

Of course. In Icenlandic it'd have been þðþúlatð

Do not try to pronounce that at home!