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Old 04-23-2012   #20341 (permalink)
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I thought you said they were all flip-floppers? I thought you said they all say things to get elected?
All i know is Obama is out of his league and his fluke shot at running this country should be over.
No, I said they are optimistic about their desires to solve problems and put the best face on things during campaigns.......it is you folks that turn that phrase....I like politicians that change their minds when they learn new things...happens to me all the time.

I must say, I don't much like Romney though...he seems so ...well plastic..like the movie version of a Presidential candidate...little substance...seems willing to do or say anything to win.

And Obama is NOT out of his league..he is President of the United States of America...that is a league that many Republicans would love to join.
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But, you gotta pick...Santorum, Newt and Paul are all primary losers...that leaves Romney/Obama...it appears clear what the woman vote and Latino vote will do with that choice.....the youth vote is still out...Independents will likely split...what are you going to do?
Romney/Obama.... Romney/Obama.... hhhmmmm.....?????
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Romney/Obama.... Romney/Obama.... hhhmmmm.....?????


That would be like Bush/Cheney...Bush was just out of his league there....
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No, I said they are optimistic about their desires to solve problems and put the best face on things during campaigns.......it is you folks that turn that phrase....I like politicians that change their minds when they learn new things...happens to me all the time.

I must say, I don't much like Romney though...he seems so ...well plastic..like the movie version of a Presidential candidate...little substance...seems willing to do or say anything to win.

And Obama is NOT out of his league..he is President of the United States of America...that is a league that many Republicans would love to join.
Come on Jacko. Obama sure was "optimistic" as you put it
And talk about little substance, a 2 year senator with everything to gain.
But i know you will hold your ranks like a good Dem.
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No, I said they are optimistic about their desires to solve problems and put the best face on things during campaigns.......it is you folks that turn that phrase....I like politicians that change their minds when they learn new things...happens to me all the time.

I must say, I don't much like Romney though...he seems so ...well plastic..like the movie version of a Presidential candidate...little substance...seems willing to do or say anything to win.

And Obama is NOT out of his league..he is President of the United States of America...that is a league that many Republicans would love to join.
I missed this post... but thanks for the laughs So you like flip-floppers and don't like Romney because he seems plastic.... Have you taken a good look at BHO?? And yep, BHO is WAY out of his league, look at his record.

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That would be like Bush/Cheney...Bush was just out of his league there....
Not seeing the correlation, sorry. Romney/Obama... Romeny the obvious choice.
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Come on Jacko. Obama sure was "optimistic" as you put it
And talk about little substance, a 2 year senator with everything to gain.
But i know you will hold your ranks like a good Dem.
I will hold my ranks with the better candidate...Obama v. Romney? ...easy peasy decision there....

I actually LIKE my candidate! Sadly for you, most of you do not even LIKE your candidate...this will matter...

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I will hold my ranks with the better candidate...Obama v. Romney? ...easy peasy decision there....

I actually LIKE my candidate!
yes it is and I like mine too.... ABO...
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I will hold my ranks with the better candidate...Obama v. Romney? ...easy peasy decision there....

I actually LIKE my candidate! Sadly for you, most of you do not even LIKE your candidate...this will matter...
I never said i didn't like him,i'm saying we could have had better choices.
And if you think Obama is doing a good job you should have been ecstatic with Bush.
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But, you gotta pick...Santorum, Newt and Paul are all primary losers...that leaves Romney/Obama...it appears clear what the woman vote and Latino vote will do with that choice.....the youth vote is still out...Independents will likely split...what are you going to do?
True, but I'm likely to sit out this election. I'm strongly apathetic about both candidates. I feel like we're debating idealogy but in the real world, in action, there's just so little difference between the two. I voted for Obama in 2008 but I just don't feel like he deserves my vote.

I know Obama will never please a certain crowd no matter what he does. And I know hindsight's 20/20 but I think Obama just caved in to the right, especially after the 2010 elections, on too many issues: taxes, healthcare, education, you name it. Many people who voted for Obama feel this way, not just me. Besides, in the red state I live in, I think my vote's wasted anyway. I'm probably jaded, but that's the reality.

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True, but I'm likely to sit out this election. I'm strongly apathetic about both candidates. I feel like we're debating idealogy but in the real world, in action, there's just so little difference between the two. I voted for Obama in 2008 but I just don't feel like he deserves my vote.

I know Obama will never please a certain crowd no matter what he does. And I know hindsight's 20/20 but I think Obama just caved in to the right, especially after the 2010 elections, on too many issues: taxes, healthcare, education, you name it. Many people who voted for Obama
feel this way, not just me. Besides, in the red state I live in, I think my vote's wasted anyway. I'm probably jaded, but that's the reality.

I'll tell you, Dan-0, you and I actually agree on a couple of the things that you've said here.

Except no way am I sitting this one out.
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I'll tell you, Dan-0, you and I actually agree on a couple of the things that you've said here.

Except no way am I sitting this one out.
State legislator's power grab on women's rights is frightening. I don't know any women, no matter what your politics, sitting out this election.
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I'll tell you, Dan-0, you and I actually agree on a couple of the things that you've said here.

Except no way am I sitting this one out.
I agree with a lot of what he said too...but I am not sitting this one out either.
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