Presidential Campaign: 2012

[ryberg]

Originally Posted by Rissask

uh, no, Mari contantly uses British spelling and phrases when in conversations with her fellow Americans, as if she were British. I don't really care, but let's be consistent when we pick and choose who to call out, shall we?

And Mari is from where, again?

And what form of English to people in many parts of that world typically learn, again?

It's quite consistent, Maggie. You're just trying to compare apples and oranges.

[roni]

Originally Posted by minnjim

Good article.

Why Republicans Must Not Cave on the Debt Ceiling - FoxNews.com

“It’s a mistake,” a top aide to a GOP freshman lawmaker said of the position Boehner outlined for the debt fight. “Look at what happened with the ‘Pledge to America’ on the [2011] budget. It will be setting an unobtainable bar.”

Read more: John Boehner's debt pitch has risks for GOP - Jake Sherman and John Bresnahan - POLITICO.com

[tmc]

Originally Posted by melliedee

That's a stretch. The military is under the command of civilian leadership. Of course the special ops get the credit for actually accomplishing the mission; I don't see anyone saying that they don't deserve that? Had the mission gone horribly wrong, the commander in chief would bear the fall out, and rightfully so.

I objected to the term "take out" in the context that I saw; giving the President more credit than due based on the circumstances was the issue.

Or do you think special forces should be "blamed" for the strategic blunders of civilian leadership?

They typically pay for such blunders with their lives; isn't that "blame" enough?

[tmc]

Originally Posted by Jacko

Which "most accounts" are those ?

Try listening/reading to something other than the News Hour and find out.

[tmc]

Originally Posted by ryberg

Well yes, I know somebody's being absurd. Obama had to be "dragged into" this?!? What planet are you on, tmc?

You do remember both John McCain & Hillary Clinton harshly criticizing candidate Obama for saying he'd do precisely this, don't you? He was "dragged into" that position, was he?

Try keeping up, the issue is one of the last 30 days, not from two years ago.

And then you get purposely pedantic about the question at hand, as if you were a 1st grader who could not deal with the obvious meaning of the language being used. And extra stuffiness points for the spelling, there!

You're kidding right; you, the man of the obvious meaning?? You calling somebody else pedantic is quite rich, as for stuffiness, get over yourself.

Man you have really gone off the deep end...

[tmc]

Originally Posted by Rissask

Okay, whatever you say, hoss.

Better call out your friend Mariposita 2 -she does that CONSTANTLY!

I tend to agree that anyone who speaks or writes as if they were of a culture not their own is being a bit pretentious, yes. (yummy yummy umeboshi! )

I am in England today, does that grant me the right to use the local spelling: I've not run afoul of the PC police, have I?

[Rissask]

Originally Posted by tmc

I am in England today, does that grant me the right to use the local spelling: I've not run afoul of the PC police, have I?

Like I said- I don't really care!

I use Brit spelling because I am a Canadian...it's what we are taught.

People don't really forget how to spell when they are on vacation, do they?

[ryberg]

Originally Posted by tmc

Try keeping up, the issue is one of the last 30 days, not from two years ago.

You're kidding right; you, the man of the obvious meaning?? You calling somebody else pedantic is quite rich, as for stuffiness, get over yourself.

I didn't think it was possible for you to be more absurd.

Clearly I was mistaken.

The first line alone is a howler and you know it. I mean even apart from the fact that you are with it claiming that your meaning is obvious, even while ignoring obvious meaning in the foregoing discussion and then trying to lambaste me on the same count.

But then I've often suspected you know better than what you say (what you say being often so ridiculous and yet you being clearly quite intelligent), so, you know, may your rantings keep you company, I guess...

[roni]

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[tmc]

Originally Posted by ryberg

I didn't think it was possible for you to be more absurd.

Clearly I was mistaken.

The first line alone is a howler and you know it. I mean even apart from the fact that you are with it claiming that your meaning is obvious, even while ignoring obvious meaning in the foregoing discussion and then trying to lambaste me on the same count.

Apparently, my point is not "obvious" to you; you really do need to get out more; a simple review of reports other than the "usual suspects" would inform you of as much.

But then I've often suspected you know better than what you say (what you say being often so ridiculous and yet you being clearly quite intelligent), so, you know, may your rantings keep you company, I guess...

Why do you feel the need to insult me, a simple "I don't know" on your part might lead you to get the background you so sorely lack on this point.

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by tmc

Try listening/reading to something other than the News Hour and find out.

So no answer?

I read this earlier and felt it fits here so well...

"A good question is never answered. It is not a bolt to be tightened into place but a seed to be planted and to bear more seed toward the hope of greening the landscape of idea."

--John Anthony Ciardi,
American poet, translator and etymologist

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by tmc

Apparently, my point is not "obvious" to you; you really do need to get out more; a simple review of reports other than the "usual suspects" would inform you of as much.

Why do you feel the need to insult me, a simple "I don't know" on your part might lead you to get the background you so sorely lack on this point.

And somehow you believe your communications are not insulting?

YOU need to get out more and see how you are perceived...or find a few more mirrors.

[Rissask]

Originally Posted by ryberg

And Mari is from where, again?

And what form of English to people in many parts of that world typically learn, again?

It's quite consistent, Maggie. You're just trying to compare apples and oranges.

Kansas? AFAIK, anyway?


and tmc is from where, originally?

You are the one who was trying to say using British spelling if you are not a Brit is pretentious. Er, I mean, 'stuffy'. Is it or isn't it?

[tmc]

Originally Posted by Jacko

So no answer?

I read this earlier and felt it fits here so well...

"A good question is never answered. It is not a bolt to be tightened into place but a seed to be planted and to bear more seed toward the hope of greening the landscape of idea."

--John Anthony Ciardi,
American poet, translator and etymologist

I am hard pressed to provide specific source locations now as a function of my whereabouts, but there must be some reports in the US papers or news sites describing the events leading up to the event in some level of detail; try to Google "Obama, Panetta, Jarrett, and UBL" for starters.

[ryberg]

Originally Posted by tmc

Apparently, my point is not "obvious" to you; you really do need to get out more; a simple review of reports other than the "usual suspects" would inform you of as much.

Why do you feel the need to insult me, a simple "I don't know" on your part might lead you to get the background you so sorely lack on this point.

You do little but insult, tmc. I mean apart from trying to pass off absurd comments as if everyone knew they were true: President Obama didn't get UBL, despite being the Commander-in-Chief and what we know of his patience and reviews and decisions in the entire thing; President Obama had to be dragged into said (not) getting of UBL, despite 3 years ago having made a promise -- and then having repeated and defended it under considerable criticism -- to (not) get him in precisely the fashion he did (not)... Then the latter point you ignore while nevertheless criticizing me for background I "sorely lack"!

You got it, tmc. You're being very rational about all this.

But that plate of cold crow Melliedee mentioned a while back must be particularly unappetizing to you, I realize...